More grudging agreement.
My problem with driver is that it's "a long club" or better yet "the longest club". Therefore "I need to SMASH it!!". And we all know how that goes..
It's supposed to be, but that ultimately depends on the fitter. The fitting I received when I bought my set of Mizunos was underwhelming and nothing like what the Mizuno website shows.
Gone step further: pull it from the bag, and put it in the closet. Go the Way of the Playa. Hit the club you hit well. Hit the shot you hit well.
As was mine. He had the Mizuno blue box and "Certified Mizuno Fitter" signs on the wall.
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As in everything else, there is a spectrum of quality amongst fitters.As was mine. He had the Mizuno blue box and "Certified Mizuno Fitter" signs on the wall.
He had me try a few 6i and I picked the 850's. Had me hit on a lie board and hit into the simulator. No static measurements. No impact tape on the club face. No shaft optimizer test. No trying out any other clubs with the set beyond the 6i. There was reluctance on his part to adjust the cast iron lies 1 1/2° - even though Mizuno claims they can be bent up to 2°. So I think he ended up building them a bit longer to compensate.
Make no mistake, I never thought this was typical, but the fitting didn't seem very complete. I think this guy just wanted to get rid of inventory and didn't want to spend a lot of time on a customer he knew was never going to spend a ton of money at his shop (he was right about that
He no longer owns the shop and the new owner seems a bit more thorough (I've since had the set re-fit to the standard length, lie and loft).
I'm not trying to scare anyone out of a fitting, just that they make sure the shop is reputable. This may have been my only chance at a proper fitting and I blew it. The clubs are fine as is and my poor swing mechanics and inabilities are far more damaging than the possibility of ill-fitted clubs. But I'll always wonder how much better the fitting could have gone.
The ones I hit felt very good when I put a nice swing on them. The Z-something, I hit a really good shot with a 7-iron,and although it was only from, 110? Maybe, the ball hit the green and only rolled out about 5 feet. That would be a huge positive for my game since I normally have to use a lower lofted club than most people for a comparatively similar distance.
@MagicSpell needs to change his forum name to GentlemanAssassin. Such a great guy and steady throughout. You wouldn't be able to tell how he shot from one hole to the next. He could go on a three hole crapfest and then not miss a single shot on the next two holes. That dude knows how to "reset". Thanks for the matches, my friend.
To use the Titleist range as a comparison, what you've done is tried a few rounds with DT TruSoft, then bought a bucket of ProV1's. 2 piece distance ball to multilayer urethane tour ball.
Yep - all ofthe above. I've taken to carrying both shafts over the range, and trying out batches of shots so there's a consistency of swing involved. Saturday morning over the range, I was a bit slicey, changing my stance a little fixed it (slightly more knee flex on backswing and downswing), so that gave me a little bit of confidence that the swing was at least being co-operative/malleable.
Best of luck w/the search. I'm not convinced that for us average guys that irons have moved that far forward. I've tried a bunch of stuff and G15/G20 era Ping irons seem to be quite competitive with any of the newer stuff I've tried.
I might get slapped around for saying this, but sometimes I think the main problem being solved in OEM designing/building new golf clubs is that problem of needing new product to sell! Ahh, well I deserve it I guess. Slap away
Dave
To use the Titleist range as a comparison, what you've done is tried a few rounds with DT TruSoft, then bought a bucket of ProV1's. 2 piece distance ball to multilayer urethane tour ball.
My advice to you:-
- Don't get freaked out if you see some differences.
- Don't get freaked out if you see absolutely no differences.
- Don't get freaked out over golf balls, full stop.
- If you do see some differences, or even think you do, just make a note of what you think you are seeing
- Try the same sort of thing with the other balls and compare.
- GO WITH WHICHEVER BALL GIVES YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE, IRRESPECTIVE OF PRICE.
Well, that's what keeps them in business, no denying that.Best of luck w/the search. I'm not convinced that for us average guys that irons have moved that far forward. I've tried a bunch of stuff and G15/G20 era Ping irons seem to be quite competitive with any of the newer stuff I've tried.
I might get slapped around for saying this, but sometimes I think the main problem being solved in OEM designing/building new golf clubs is that problem of needing new product to sell! Ahh, well I deserve it I guess. Slap away
Dave
