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Ball Expert Answers to Ty_Webb's questions
Pause it at 50 seconds. This is a picture of the ball just a tiny fraction after impact. It's Tiger Woods, so he's swinging it at somewhere in the low-mid 120s mph I think (the swingvision thing claims a 139mph clubhead speed unless I'm misreading, but I don't believe that's right). Look at how round the ball is. There is absolutely none of that continued oscillation that you see on the other video. Granted that's at a faster speed, but there's quite a lot of give in that steel plate so other than the speed they should be consistent. I personally find it quite hard to believe that 25 odd mph makes the difference between a perfectly round ball just after impact versus the egg-shaped thing on that video.
"Steel plate sitting still with far less give and moving club head can and will cause a difference in distortion as it relates to a golf ball. 25mph will cause a much larger distortion of any golf ball in our research. Take a club head moving 100 mph and one moving 75 mph, the difference at impact is quite large. The same can be said for a ball moving 150 and one moving 125. In fact the difference has been found to be so great that we as manufacturers have had to completely change the process of making golf balls as speeds have increased due to technology."
Couple of other questions for your golf ball person:
1) Does he think that's a standard golf ball or is there something funny about it?
"I think it could be a standard golf ball. The violence of impact to the golf ball has changed the way we manufacture them as mentioned previously. Take a very low impact (compression) ball and put a violent swing on it, and the ball will deform dramatically different than a higher impact ball. Golfers should be looking at the trampoline like symptoms that take place and making sure that they have a golf ball that fits within their swing speed and equipment. The notion that a golf ball simply cannot do this is completely false. We have witnessed deformations and it was brought up on the forum by someone that the golf ball would break under these conditions. This is not necessarily true at all; to believe that the solid core balls are "solid" and will not move is false."
2) How efficient does he think that impact is going to be with the ball flexing around like that and wasting energy at the same time?
"In the video scenario, the golf ball would not be efficient for launch conditions on a golf course. I have watched it numerous times and have not seen anything talk about efficiency. Could a manufactured golf ball do this at this speed? Yes it could depending on the golf ball being tested and what the materials of this ball are made of. Cover, core, layers and compression will all lead to what can and cannot be done."
"Based on what I have read on the community forum, not sure my answers will help or not."
Pause it at 50 seconds. This is a picture of the ball just a tiny fraction after impact. It's Tiger Woods, so he's swinging it at somewhere in the low-mid 120s mph I think (the swingvision thing claims a 139mph clubhead speed unless I'm misreading, but I don't believe that's right). Look at how round the ball is. There is absolutely none of that continued oscillation that you see on the other video. Granted that's at a faster speed, but there's quite a lot of give in that steel plate so other than the speed they should be consistent. I personally find it quite hard to believe that 25 odd mph makes the difference between a perfectly round ball just after impact versus the egg-shaped thing on that video.
"Steel plate sitting still with far less give and moving club head can and will cause a difference in distortion as it relates to a golf ball. 25mph will cause a much larger distortion of any golf ball in our research. Take a club head moving 100 mph and one moving 75 mph, the difference at impact is quite large. The same can be said for a ball moving 150 and one moving 125. In fact the difference has been found to be so great that we as manufacturers have had to completely change the process of making golf balls as speeds have increased due to technology."
Couple of other questions for your golf ball person:
1) Does he think that's a standard golf ball or is there something funny about it?
"I think it could be a standard golf ball. The violence of impact to the golf ball has changed the way we manufacture them as mentioned previously. Take a very low impact (compression) ball and put a violent swing on it, and the ball will deform dramatically different than a higher impact ball. Golfers should be looking at the trampoline like symptoms that take place and making sure that they have a golf ball that fits within their swing speed and equipment. The notion that a golf ball simply cannot do this is completely false. We have witnessed deformations and it was brought up on the forum by someone that the golf ball would break under these conditions. This is not necessarily true at all; to believe that the solid core balls are "solid" and will not move is false."
2) How efficient does he think that impact is going to be with the ball flexing around like that and wasting energy at the same time?
"In the video scenario, the golf ball would not be efficient for launch conditions on a golf course. I have watched it numerous times and have not seen anything talk about efficiency. Could a manufactured golf ball do this at this speed? Yes it could depending on the golf ball being tested and what the materials of this ball are made of. Cover, core, layers and compression will all lead to what can and cannot be done."
"Based on what I have read on the community forum, not sure my answers will help or not."
