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I've hit both the MC and the CB head to head and they are both great clubs. Many have said that the MC has a lower ball flight and it does, but slightly, especially in the longer irons. The CB's ball flight is higher than the MC's and like Dr. Teeth said, if you already hit the ball high the CB's will send your ball to the moon. The MC will give you great turf interaction and penetrating ball flight. I'm probably going to go with a set of the CB's mainly because they are slightly more forgiving and they helped me get the ball up in a hurry.
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This could be true, but I guess it depends on shaft. THe XP shaft plays a MAJOR roll in the ball flight.
I would be interested to hit the CBs with a DGS3000 in it to see the difference- the CBs certainly have a COG that is lower and much further back than the MCs which has pretty big effects on ball flight. I am not so willing to chalk up the launch differences to JUST the shaft until apples to apples have been compared. Heck, I am just looking forward to the outing when I can hit the CBs for myself.
I would be interested to hit the CBs with a DGS3000 in it to see the difference- the CBs certainly have a COG that is lower and much further back than the MCs which has pretty big effects on ball flight. I am not so willing to chalk up the launch differences to JUST the shaft until apples to apples have been compared. Heck, I am just looking forward to the outing when I can hit the CBs for myself.
I dont know if anyone has the DGS300 in the CB's. But I am not sure.
While I do agree with you, I think that the differences (assuming both have the same shaft) would be hard to identify with the naked eye.
I would tend to disagree with you though. The shaft is contributing, but the eye test of looking at the design on the club tells me the club itself would launch higher.
What makes the MCs less forgiving is exactly what makes them lower launching.
Maybe. I also assume that your 6 iron isn't the same loft as the CB 6iron so it really doesn't matter. I've put 12 different shafts into the same iron head and watched all of my spin #'s and shot heights change dramatically.
I would tend to disagree with you though. The shaft is contributing, but the eye test of looking at the design on the club tells me the club itself would launch higher.
What makes the MCs less forgiving is exactly what makes them lower launching.
The CB 6i is 29* and the MB is 30*
I would tend to believe that it is more to do with the shaft than you think. I did a little comparison with the S3 today and they are much more aggressive with their perimeter weighting. The CBs were way higher.
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exactly, I am doing a little test of my own tomorrow...it will include the CB, the CG16, and the Burner 2.0
It's still a tough comparison though b/c all the shafts are completely different.
It's still a tough comparison though b/c all the shafts are completely different.
I agree. What I was trying to say is that the xp shaft really wants to launch the ball high for me.
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What are the lofts of the S3 vs the CBs? Aren't the S3s really strong lofted?
I am not trying to be a pain, or spark an argument or anything about this- just spurn a little discussion about something that seems to get glossed over with "its just the shaft". You all know that I put a lot of weight in trial, numbers, and science- and without a head to head comparison it becomes tough to make any firm decisions about what is causing it.
If it were up to me I would golf a lot more in real life and not on a SIM, but that is what mother nature delivers me. 5" of snow on Wednesday shut back down the few courses that were open. This has been the coldest/wettest spring that I can remember in Ohio.
They are really high launching shafts.
I know Rx, what I mean is that when I do a lot of testing, I have the fortune of being able to do it outside as well, that's all. And I do think that you are correct, it's not solely the shaft, but I think the shaft plays a higher % of the role.
I also think that the conditions can have a lot to do with it as well.