How does the feel of the 1025E 921F short irons compare to the feel on the tours?
Mizuno Releasing JPX 921 Irons: Full Preview
How does the feel of the 1025E 921F short irons compare to the feel on the tours?
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I only have the 921F and the 919T but they are both 1025E, as are the 921T. So it will be an indirect comparison but I am happy to make it! I’m expecting them to more or less feel the same given the materials being the same but I’ve been wrong before.
I'm in the exact same spot. If I get the same performance I'll go HMP due to cost and the 4 iron will become a Fli-Hi (19 degrees 4 iron doesn't sound to friendly)
In the same boat. I have advantage of playing 919F and HMP giving me a hint - I am more consistent after the 6i and may go 4-6 921 HMP, 7-PW 921 F.
Although I've got to say, that the HMP is so impressive in 7-PW, it's hard to make the break. BUT with 921F being Forged Chromoly, it's easier. Depends on when your consistency breaks down -- for me its probably 4-6 921 HMP, 7-PW 921 F, then strong GW at 48, 53, 58. Now if I knew the graphite shafts ...
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Same break I was thinking, between 6 and 7. Maybe 1 degree strong on the 7 forged , 1 degree weak on the 6HMP.
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TBD but this is something I’m looking into. What are you looking for for forgiveness? (Could mean a lot)
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Launch angle and consistent ball speed across the face... some help with low struck shots - would think the Forged Tec would excel here...
That sounds sensible.
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I’m with you on this. Also looks like the FT might have higher launch ....
I am most likely to go with one set instead of a split set. I have a split set now and the mid irons just are no where near as good as the short irons. Burnt once, not likely to do it again
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I’ve said it loud a proud a few times in person, the Forged are kind of a spilt set. HM materials in the long irons, Tour materials in the short irons.
Not on the HMP's - those suckers go far ... the Forged, less so. Have done it- got the T Shirt.. ("Ima Golf Ho")
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Maybe, but time and testing will confirm! I have a 4 set rotation testing planned that these will being tested against
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OH! Did not know that. Are you telling me I actually have to READ the articles you guys write???
I see it now!!! "The JPX 921 Forged set is comprised of the full body forged chromoly 4-7 irons and full body forged 1025E 8-GW irons"When you do your testing can you comment on how forgiving/easy it is to hit the 4/5 irons in the 921F set versus the 921HMP's? I am thinking of getting a little bit of help in the 4/5 and having the rest 921F.
Thanks Molten!!
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Really tough to compare, but I wouldn't hesitate personally on either the Forged or the HMPs in that spot.
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I’d like to add the 921 Forged in those photos too!
The pics I want to see are of me hitting the 921F. 
curious how the forged compares to MMC, head size and general performance. They are both the sweet spot middle in Mizuno’s lineups.
curious how the forged compares to MMC, head size and general performance. They are both the sweet spot middle in Mizuno’s lineups.
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So, I smuggled some JPX 921 Tours out of THP HQ for a bit of a trial run, set up with my regular steel shafts (KBS Tour V) with completely stock construction (read: weaker lofts, somewhat flat). I have such a weird perspective on them right now after hitting all four of the heads side by side... Like if Jeep were to sell a sedan - the guts are definitely in line, but it's kind of out on an island by itself.
Is that a bad thing? I say hell no. Each head in the line has something unique that defines it, and the Tours are exactly that.. the JPX version of a tour iron that is high powered, built with a lot of carefully considered elements, and intended for those players who want a bit more than an MB while enjoying the maximum workability they are familiar with.
All that in mind, a bit of a nod to 919. I'll be blunt - I thought the tours were the worst sounding iron of the entire Mizuno lineup. I wanted nothing to do with them. Yeah, harsh, I get it, but I think I need to say that to comment on how much I DO like the sound of 921. It is wildly better, and the presentation from a finish standpoint combines for what I would consider to be a very appealing profile.
So what can we really talk about beyond sound (great) when it comes to a players iron? Workability? Maximum. I've got a video coming up on THP TV that actively displays the ease that these irons have turning the ball both ways. Where some irons hit it straight when you didn't think they would, these hit the ball the direction you know you deserved haha! Overall flight? Spin? Predictable based on loft. There's only so much a company can do with a subtle CB/MB profile when it comes to spin production or reduction. I can hit it high and land it soft, I can hit it with spin... they 'work' how you want them to.
Turf interaction. Neutral to reasonable. My divots were shallow all day, which is awesome as the turf is a bit soft after some rain here. That's a big win for this profile, and it also supports the design features of this type of iron because you sort of need to get the head into the ball at the right height to get positive feedback. Yes, of course I hit one thin.. with a 5 iron.. to a 210 yard pin... it didn't feel great, but I lipped the 20 foot birdie putt so I am not upset about it.
The final comment before you guys read and ask more: like most in this profile from Mizuno, there just isn't much out there that feels as rewarding as enjoyable as flushing one. I hit two straight irons that you'd call "nutted" if you were with me, and I was so impressed. Did I mention the sound yet? Again? K.
Your turn.
Is that a bad thing? I say hell no. Each head in the line has something unique that defines it, and the Tours are exactly that.. the JPX version of a tour iron that is high powered, built with a lot of carefully considered elements, and intended for those players who want a bit more than an MB while enjoying the maximum workability they are familiar with.
All that in mind, a bit of a nod to 919. I'll be blunt - I thought the tours were the worst sounding iron of the entire Mizuno lineup. I wanted nothing to do with them. Yeah, harsh, I get it, but I think I need to say that to comment on how much I DO like the sound of 921. It is wildly better, and the presentation from a finish standpoint combines for what I would consider to be a very appealing profile.
So what can we really talk about beyond sound (great) when it comes to a players iron? Workability? Maximum. I've got a video coming up on THP TV that actively displays the ease that these irons have turning the ball both ways. Where some irons hit it straight when you didn't think they would, these hit the ball the direction you know you deserved haha! Overall flight? Spin? Predictable based on loft. There's only so much a company can do with a subtle CB/MB profile when it comes to spin production or reduction. I can hit it high and land it soft, I can hit it with spin... they 'work' how you want them to.
Turf interaction. Neutral to reasonable. My divots were shallow all day, which is awesome as the turf is a bit soft after some rain here. That's a big win for this profile, and it also supports the design features of this type of iron because you sort of need to get the head into the ball at the right height to get positive feedback. Yes, of course I hit one thin.. with a 5 iron.. to a 210 yard pin... it didn't feel great, but I lipped the 20 foot birdie putt so I am not upset about it.
The final comment before you guys read and ask more: like most in this profile from Mizuno, there just isn't much out there that feels as rewarding as enjoyable as flushing one. I hit two straight irons that you'd call "nutted" if you were with me, and I was so impressed. Did I mention the sound yet? Again? K.
Your turn.