wristcock
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given most golfers (ballpark 20 and above handicappers) struggle with the higher-lofted wedges and often select them when they are unlikely to pull off the planned shot...I'd say forgiveness would be helpful indeed.
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The new Cleveland RTX ZipCore wedges have been getting rave reviews as of late on the THP Forum. With many golfers using this end of their bag as extensions to their irons, we got to thinking about forgiveness and how it impacts full swings. Here is Cleveland RTX ZipCore vs CBX2 wedges.
Our content is about answering your questions and this is the number one question we have received about wedges…Does Forgiveness Matter? This is a pretty eye opening video showing the swings and data from two VERY different styles and let you decide which would be right for you.
The goal was simple, to show two very different wedge styles and what impact that would have for those that use them for full swings. When we began shooting, we genuinely had no idea what the outcome would be. There is no denying how solid both of the lines from Cleveland Golf are, but outside of being from the same company, stark differences exist.
Important to note that there will be some sole and versatility differences between these two lines. As you get into flighting, workability and some areas around the green other aspects become apparent. For this comparison however, we wanted to focus on the question we get asked the most. Does forgiveness matter in wedges and using Cleveland RTX ZipCore vs CBX2 wedges to demonstrate.
After watching the video above, which one is right for you and what style of wedge do you play? You can find more information about both ZipCore and CBX2 at their website here.
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curious if you watched the video showing the data.In a word: nope! Ive played blade style wedges and Ive played cavity back wedges, Cleveland CBX included and noticed absolutely no difference in terms of performance or forgivness.
The video shows Dan hit the cbx2 pretty dang well, the numbers and control/playability showed better than the zip core.
I absolutely believe there’s a place for cavity back wedges.
For me I’ve struggled with a wider sole wedge and seem to have more confidence in a blade style.
The wedge game is always a work in progress though..
I went to a shop after seeing the vid - that CBX2 looked huge compared to the ZipCore or what I play - MP T20.
I can see it working for people who don't play much and it may even help peeps who won't use it because of its size. I am more likely to look at a Ping Glide 3.0 or WTH, a Mizuno ES21 - both CB-like and designed for more spin in damp conditions.
I would argue that as the video shows, it can work for great ball strikers too.
Everybody misses, even a little and design can play such a large role there.
That is exactly why we did this test and genuinely with @Canadan expected different results. What happened was the wider sole and forgiving club lacked no precision. It surprised usI don't know if it's still applicable, but I remember the discussion/analysis stating the CB is more forgiving but the Blade is more precise.
....and sort of haunts my thoughts, honestly haha
That is exactly why we did this test and genuinely with @Canadan expected different results. What happened was the wider sole and forgiving club lacked no precision. It surprised us
get in my way how, exactly?Yes, but you've got to think about playability through real turf, odd lies and rough - the bigger head and wider sole and longer heel to toe (? - if there) can get in your way.
get in my way how, exactly?
I could see that argument greenside, I guess.Playability. Bigger club, moving through rough is more difficult. How is hosel designed? Club may be tougher through uneven lies. How does the bounce interact with my swing in lush and tight lies.
That's why I can't really test a wedge until it goes through real turf. Need to see how it reacts to my various swings dependent on the lie and the pin position.
I could see that argument greenside, I guess.
But then again, we'd all be playing blades if wider body profiles were brutal through the rough.
To me, the give and take is critical.
Yeah, and I think it's worth noting that not all wedges are greenside necessary. There's a lot that goes on with 3/4 full swings with a wedge that would highly promote at least some forgiveness.Yes, with the 54+ lofts, one finds themselves in odd places near the green. I don't mind a smaller CB Wedge - Glide 3.0 for example. It's a balance depending on the player. If you're not a creative wedge player, a bigger CB may work if you know how to handle the bigger club and twisting or the odd downhill, uphill, and sidehill lies that you may encounter. It all depends on your skill level. Options are great, depending on your game and what you like to do around the green.
What kind of irons do you play? Do you take full shows with wedges, and where do you struggle most in your wedge game?What do you guys think? If I am a 15 handicap is it worth it to get the zipcore or is it not forgiving enough for me?
I play the ZipCore 54° and 62°. The 54° I use all the time for full shots and have loved how smooth it plays. I believe there is plenty of forgiveness inside the club. I play around 18ish for handicap.What do you guys think? If I am a 15 handicap is it worth it to get the zipcore or is it not forgiving enough for me?