Play with me sometime and you’ll hear it.
I get pissed when I hit my 7 iron 190 and I’m expecting 170. 
"Jacked" Lofts in 2020
I get pissed when I hit my 7 iron 190 and I’m expecting 170. 
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Honestly, that’s called either finding the middle of the face, or needing to just club down.Play with me sometime and you’ll hear it.
Yep. I think it’s being new to the game. Consistency just isn’t the norm at this point, but I’m working on it.Honestly, that’s called either finding the middle of the face, or needing to just club down.
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I'll argue the other side, I've sold an iron set because they were too short distance wise. I have a specific minimum yardage that I want to get to with each set.
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But isn't this what the get off my lawn crowd argues as "tradition" and "precision"?
Why is this thread still going.....????
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Why not? Insanity is fun.Why is this thread still going.....????
So too is any golf discussion.
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Yep, and I respect their opinion but I'm against that hard headed thought process for the most part. Tradition is great but technology and progress is what moves the world forward.
Why not? Insanity is fun.
So too is any golf discussion.
I have no issue with golf discussion, but I don't want to be driven insane by this thread
Just give me clubs, I will figure out how far each of them goes and let me play golf
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Now you are just talking sane. Stop that shenanigans. LOLI have no issue with golf discussion, but I don't want to be driven insane by this thread
Just give me clubs, I will figure out how far each of them goes and let me play golf
When ping eye 2 came out we were still playing balata balls and shaft technology was not good. I bet if you posted a chart with launch angle and apex the PW’s would be fairly close.
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There are still hickory tournaments for those who like tradition.
Haha, blame it on @chile , he said "jacked lofts" 3 times! ???Why is this thread still going.....????
You can just start at SW, PW, 9 - 2 and cover the bag. But today it's PW, AW, GW, SW. Horses and Courses. Roses and Apples. In the end it is the same results since 1920's. Loft for loft what's the Distance advantage?
I honestly don't see any difference in Distance per loft. Now easier to hit and score. Yes. Playability yes.
You can just start at SW, PW, 9 - 2 and cover the bag. But today it's PW, AW, GW, SW. Horses and Courses. Roses and Apples. In the end it is the same results since 1920's. Loft for loft what's the Distance advantage?
I honestly don't see any difference in Distance per loft. Now easier to hit and score. Yes. Playability yes.
As I have said, it's just a number on the bottom of the club. Whether it is an old 4-iron or a new 7-iron it really doesn't matter.
Which is where the head scratching and confusion is coming from.
There are advertising X Clubs are longer. In fact so long that you need to buy 6 Wedges to cover the 60 to 220 yard gaps.
Then some of us have purchased our complete set. 6 Wedges included. After a proper fitting. Which included only a 6 or 7 iron. Not asking about specs or lofts. Innocent and quiet frankly ripe for the taking.
We get home our new set. And every Club after the 7 iron goes the same Distance. 4 iron, 5, 6 iron goes 2 to 3 yards further. The 4 iron is 19 degrees. Opsy. I can't hit a 19 degree 4 iron any better that I can hit a 19 degree 2 iron. But at least when I do hit a Universal driving iron correctly it goes 220 to 240 yards. The new improved SGI 4 iron never gets to 190. Why, because it's a 4 iron?
Then the fitter comes back with his Hybrid wagon. If you only replace your 4, 5, 6 iron with the Hybrids problem solved.
Well, not so fast. Yes they launch higher. And yes they go greater Distances. But since golf is any accuracy game. I am not measuring results by launch angles, ball speed, Distances and lofts.
I only measure the results. Dispersion and accuracy in Distance to desired target.
Ok. Maybe I can spend the next 10 years learning how to properly hit a Hybrids. It took me 30 years to learn how to hit Irons, but at least I am not starting from scratch.
Unfortunately, I am a healthy 57 year old. I don't have 10 years. Who are we kidding? I ten years at 67 I might not be able to get off the couch. Such is real life. I hope I can play. But I don't desire to spend 10 years on a swing change at 57.
Loft jack all you want. But at least provide the 6 thru 4 irons for testing and fitting. I have enough fitted clubs in my garage that simply don't work or fit after a 6 iron.
And I have several sets that work from UDI 2 irons, 3, 4, 5 irons with proper Gapping. Straight out of the box.
Funny thing is, those clubs are Bladed and "traditional " lofts.
But it doesn't matter. Play your best fitting set.
Some of us are thrice bitten, twice shy
Now I am checking lofts and specs and lengths
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PW 41, PW46, GW50, SW 54, LW 58, SUPER DUPER FLOP WEDGE 64
No. I am saying that I hit any 41° degree Club the same Distance. Regardless of the Stamping.
I also only hit some 19° degree Club (irons) well. Again regardless of the Stamping.
Some clubs, regardless of the Stamping on the bottom are useless below 28° degrees of loft. In my hands. But these clubs are also not readily available at club fittings.
So this has lead to poor choices in irons above 28° degrees of loft. Again regardless of stamped name.
I can't hit a club below 60° degrees of loft either. Not now or ever
I am as well. My PW is 41 and I am playing 4 wedges (if we found 46 as a wedge) and I could get by with 3.
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