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Was told my tee time was given away before the actual tee time...thoughts?

Also....if it IS required to pay and check in 15 minutes prior to the stated tee time, then WHY didn't the person in the Pro Shop when you paid, allow you to pay?
 
I'd have either teed off anyway or demanded my money back, then blasted that course anywhere I could for the poor treatment. That's completely unacceptable.
 
So if he gave the tee time spot to someone else, were they teeing off while this interaction took place? If not, the time wasn't given away and I would have proceeded to the tee box to begin play.

Perhaps he moved the 9:18 group to your spot (assuming all 4 were there and ready), meaning you would then acquire the 9:18 spot...? I've seen this happen several times at the courses I frequent. Keeps things running smoothly and encourages people to show up in time to tee off at their assigned time.
 
my county has a policy for its 5 courses tat states "failing to arrive no later than 1/2 hour before tee time is designated a no-show".

That being said they still use common sense and better judgment and don't hold strict to that rule. However, I have seen late or last minute arrivals screw things up and hold things up too. So this fwiw works both ways. In the case of the OP it sounds like they should have used better judgment but I would ask....I don't understand where your playing partners were in all of this. Why weren't they at the tee and waiting and explaining you will be here?
 
I don't get angry very easily, but that would have gotten me riled up for sure.
 
Wake said:
If you had all arrived right on time, I might would have been a little bit more understanding. But since 3/4 were there 30 minutes early, they should have at least been presented with the opportunity to go off and have you join them on the second tee.
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City courses around here get a bit funky like this as well. The starter and the cashier never interact. You pay then go take the receipt to the starter and if you don't and it is busy your time is gone. The cashier always says check in with starter though. But showing up to the starter 2 min before your time you will usually find yourself sol if it is busy.
 
ntanygd760 said:
City courses around here get a bit funky like this as well. The starter and the cashier never interact. You pay then go take the receipt to the starter and if you don't and it is busy your time is gone. The cashier always says check in with starter though. But showing up to the starter 2 min before your time you will usually find yourself sol if it is busy.
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The cashiers and starters both have walkie talkies. I understand I was cutting it real close getting there. I work overnights and got caught in traffic leaving Boston. I was however ready to golf when i walked up to him. I can roll straight out of bed and hit a golf ball! Agree about my playing partners...they should have been done hitting balls and ready. It doesn't help them anyways.
 
Can you blame the Big Dig still? :alien:
 
stevie-a said:
So if he gave the tee time spot to someone else, were they teeing off while this interaction took place? If not, the time wasn't given away and I would have proceeded to the tee box to begin play.

Perhaps he moved the 9:18 group to your spot (assuming all 4 were there and ready), meaning you would then acquire the 9:18 spot...? I've seen this happen several times at the courses I frequent. Keeps things running smoothly and encourages people to show up in time to tee off at their assigned time.
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He didn't move any spots around. He filled out spot with someone else. Told us that unless another group doesn't show we were looking at about a 2 hour wait until the next opening because he wasn't going to tell the "Jefferson" group that when they show up that they couldn't because he had to let out "late" group in. There were no openings. The other group that took my tee time was already standing at their drives awaiting their 2nd shots. I showed up to him at 9:08 and the tee box was empty and the 9:10 group was already on their way.
 
I have a feeling one of two things would have happened:

1) I would teed off shortly

2) I would have been escorted off the property with a full refund
 
The level of service doesn't sound like a championship level course... They should have known majority of the group had already arrived early.


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greg19 said:
He didn't move any spots around. He filled out spot with someone else. Told us that unless another group doesn't show we were looking at about a 2 hour wait until the next opening because he wasn't going to tell the "Jefferson" group that when they show up that they couldn't because he had to let out "late" group in. There were no openings. The other group that took my tee time was already standing at their drives awaiting their 2nd shots. I showed up to him at 9:08 and the tee box was empty and the 9:10 group was already on their way.
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Seems suspect, as I assume the course doesn't just take money from random walk-ups with no tee time when the tee sheet is booked solid... The group that replaced your group came from somewhere -- either an earlier or later tee time. That said, what's done is done now and your only recourse would be to voice your concerns with the manager/owner if you haven't already done so.
 
He was probably being a douche and trying to free up a spot or two for buddies of his later in the day.

As others have stated, I would have, very politely, taken the tee, started my round and forced them to kick me off of the course for starting at the agreed time which my group had already paid for. I would then speak to whomever was in charge and hope the situation was rectified. If I was removed and not allowed to play that day... well... that is where the fun would start as I would run a smear campaign on social media and sites such as this. Championship course or not, no one needs to deal with uppity staff.
 
Sounds like the starter might have been the victim of the ol' "here's a $50 can you help?" from some others that just showed up hoping for a tee time.
 
That's bullsh**.
 
Wow. I would not have been happy to say the least. I would've gone back into the clubhouse and asked to speak to whoever was in charge. I hope your buddies were refunded the cost of the course you were supposed to play. I might've even written a complaint to the owner of the course and tell them how unprofessional their starter is. Just unacceptable.
 
ken_h said:
I don't get angry very easily, but that would have gotten me riled up for sure.
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I would pay to see you riled up Ken haha
 
I suppose for tee times (if things go smoothly) its not uncommon to be called 5 or so minutes early and is probably why getting to the course early is required. However, with that said I am always against calling early for a big reason. You see...I feel that just because a group gets off the tee and second shots quicker than normal, the starter imo should still wait out the tee time interval because all he/she is accomplishing by sending the next group early is putting them on the backs of the group ahead. Its no coincidence that short interval tee times is often a huge detriment towards pace problems. Waiting the full time interval allows a cushion and some elbow room. It kind of irks me when I see people handing in their tickets early to the starter and heading to the tee just because the last group got off quickly and the starter says nothing. I mean all they are doing is hurrying up to wait anyway. I think its the job of a good starter to just let the time expire regardless how fast the group ahead left the tee.

The same thing happens when there is a frost delay. In that case I understand they need to catch up so they send out soon as clear. But it always ends up being the slowest rounds by far as it just jams things up and that imo is proof that close tee times are bad and waiting is much more efficient towards pace. Sorry to get off track with this but its not really off track because the fact that courses may often call early (even if its a poor practice) is common and most probably why they want us there early. In their eyes (even if the reasons are wrong) they feel that we should be there and ready and not just only a couple minutes before hand but ready to tee off if called early. Does this mean the OP's barely on time arrival was going to cause a delay? I don't know what the whole situation was that the starter was faced with. But they (the starter) should have use judgment based on his situation and even figured out something different based on who was ready instead of just being a robot for sake of following guidelines. I assume something could have been figured out that would have worked if he just made an effort. That said and now not meaning to sound harsh but showing up a few minutes before tee time is just not good to do imo. I would have to admit to take some of that blame on myself if it were me.
 
Been working hard to contain my inner anger on the course, which I've done a good job, so far the past 2 seasons.
But I'll say "Angry Shifty" definitely would've made an appearance in this case!
 
Craziness. All that matters is that you're on the box on or before your time. I've played 3,500+ rounds and never seen a policy that you need to check in with the starter 15 minutes early. Some starters get a little agitated if they can't find you on the range or you haven't checked in shortly after they have called out your name over the PA system, but giving away your time is against common practice and just plain stupid.
 
Lol this story is so brutal it's comical, assuming you guys were in fact at the tee box ready to go at 9:08.

I would have told him where to shove his head and teed off anyways. Unless he is prepared to physically restrain you you'd have a great round of golf.
 
greg19 said:
He didn't move any spots around. He filled out spot with someone else. Told us that unless another group doesn't show we were looking at about a 2 hour wait until the next opening because he wasn't going to tell the "Jefferson" group that when they show up that they couldn't because he had to let out "late" group in. There were no openings. The other group that took my tee time was already standing at their drives awaiting their 2nd shots. I showed up to him at 9:08 and the tee box was empty and the 9:10 group was already on their way.
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So, the best part is that based on what you said here, the starter let a group off early if they indeed replaced the 9:10 tee time of yours. Otherwise, who was next on the tee box after that? If they were at their balls hitting 2nd shots, seems the timing is right for the next tee time.

Seems like he just wanted to be a d!ck to people that didn't bow down to his authority and stupid rules.
 
Every course With a starter That I have ever been on in my life also has a walkie talkie and a clip board for that starter. They always call the starter when groups check in and/or the starter calls to verify that groups are there or missing. It's simple management 101.

Poorly managed course if you ask me. I would have teed off anyway and made them calls the cops to get me off the course. Also would be expecting a refund or voucher for free round for the inconvenience.




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