ODSTBRIGADIER
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I'm am planning on purchasing an additional set of wedges that do NOT conform to the groove rule. I am thinking 52,56,60. What model should i get? I also want a groove sharpener-any good ones?
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I'm thinking of getting some vokeys since everyone seems to like those. The TM z tp wedges also look really nice though...
Pick your wedges by what you like.You have to like the shape of the club head. Z groove TM's will perform just as good as the Spin milled.Just depends on the shape,you like.Plus some come with a cool factory grind that can improve your wedge play.
IMHO, I'd say the wedges with the best grooves in no paticular order are
Callaway MD wedges,Vokey SM and TM's Z grooves.
You want some really nice wedges?
Try these:
Snake Eyes 655TM
I'll put these wedges up against ANYTHING the "brand name" market has to offer and I guarantee these will outperform all of them!
Soft forged steel, hits like a dream, spins like crazy!
-JP
They are good wedges, no question about it. I played them for a while. But they are NOT of the same caliber in my mind as some of the stuff out right now.
Of course not, they're in a class by themselves!
-JP
Of course not, they're in a class by themselves!
-JP
Right. That is what I meant.
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The two biggest names in wedges these days are Vokey and Cleveland. I've owned both and used both and I don't like them. Despite all of the ad-speak about how metallurgy has changed over the years and the "science" of modern casting, both the Vokey's and the Cleveland's feel too "clicky".
My 655's feel like wedge's are supposed to feel and that's because they're forged. They're very soft and when I make contact with the ball there's a very solid and satisfying "thunk" - sort of like the way a well oiled and well used catcher's mitt feels when it grabs a fastball.
And the best part is that I didn't have to get on some ridiculous "waiting list" or pay some overinflated price for them. The head, shaft, grip and ferrule cost me less than fifty bucks and after I ground them down to my specs, I have a truly custom pair of wedges - real forged wedges - for less than the cost of a single cast Vokey.
Can't beat that with a stick (or any of those other wedges) :thumb:
-JP
Keep believing the ad speak.
All the club makers must be wrong about the forged/cast.
As for the Vokey, I dont care for them much either. But the feel of the Cleveland and the Vokeys are totally different. I play neither, but they are not anywhere near the same.
But if you are stuck on forged, then I guess you could say that all forged are the same too right? Callaway, Nike, Nickent, your brand, Mizuno, and all the others? Shape, weighting, groove size, etc all dont matter?
What works for you may not work for others. Hundreds of touring pros play cast wedges and not because they are paid to do so. Many are TM guys and use Cleveland or Vokeys, many are other brands that play even different brands.
In our testing with every brand out there, a cast wedge won, so those 18 guys must be different still.
Hey, I know what I know.
I've been playing golf for forty years and a good portion of that was at or around a 2 handicap. I'm not saying that to brag about anything; I only mention it to point out that I know how to play this game, I know my way around a golf club and that I believe I know what a good club feels like and to me, these are good clubs - period.
I don't care about test results, polls, surveys, tour "bag checks" or whatever else is used to come up with whatever statistical data that's needed to sell the newest or "next great thing" I trust my eyes, my hands and my ears and they all tell me that these wedges are the best I've ever used.
As for everyone else, I can't speak for them. But they can't speak for me either, so we're even.
-JP
I think if you read my actual post I said that very thing. That clubs are different for everybody. Our shoot outs are done to take a whole lot of people that have nothing to do with the site or any company and figure out which one THEY think is best.
However it is possible that you like your wedges because of the metal used, the shape, the weighting, etc...and not because they were forged. Other wise, all forged wedges would be exactly the same.
Actually this discussion is about wedges. You may want to find our cast vs forged thread to argue away. Your thoughts are different than just about every club maker in the world at todays time, but feel free.