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Wow, I like the new AP 1 also but this is the 1st time I've heard anyone say it was longer than the cf16. ThanksJust got done my fitting at a studio today and these were the winner winner chicken dinner.
I so wanted the CF 16's to be the ones but the numbers with these bad boys were too much to ignore. I gained about 20 yds with the 7i from my current gamers and they were still 10 yds longer than CF's for me. Went 6-PW, GW1 + GW2 (47* and 52*) and then got 56* and 60* SM5's. All with TT Dynamic Gold R300 shafts.
i did get fit into the GBB which I know this is the wrong thread, but wow that GBB.
I gained good carry distance but what was most impressive for me was my miss dispersion.
Bad swings still produced playable results. Not optimal, but playable where as my current driver (RBZ Stage 2) would leave me dead in the water.
Can't wait to get out with my new sticks.
Same here, but, this again goes to show what a fitting can do for sure.Wow, I like the new AP 1 also but this is the 1st time I've heard anyone say it was longer than the cf16. Thanks
Same here, but, this again goes to show what a fitting can do for sure.
Enjoy the new sticks Lemmiwinks!
I have gotten 2 rounds in with my new toys.
I have to say, I love these clubs already.
I'm hitting them about the same distances as my previous set (TaylorMade Burner Super Launch).
Now both rounds have been in the low 40's, so I'm guessing I'll have gained about a club when the temps are 70°+.
The feel on well struck shots is a lot different to the SGI's I was gaming.
Almost every shot on my previous set felt the same, whether it was well struck or not.
These, there's definitely a different feel on shots all across the clubface and on a well struck shot, the feel is very smooth.
I'm really interested in your comments. Our handicaps are close (yours is better) Have always wanted to play Titleist irons and now I'm at the point where I think"two of us" can meet. I'm getting better and they are making the club more forgiving. I would be coming from a SGI iron as well (D100). How did you make transition from the different offset on the irons? I wonder if a set on 714's would be a better place to start or if the 716 are just the more forgiving.
I'll take thoughts from the group.
I must be crazy or my data is wonky as when it comes to performance they're just crazy similar to the 714 in all the testing I did on monitor and course for the review. Other than aesthetics of course.
But, it's the bliss of choices.
I must be crazy or my data is wonky as when it comes to performance they're just crazy similar to the 714 in all the testing I did on monitor and course for the review. Other than aesthetics of course.
But, it's the bliss of choices.
Jman, did you see that I pulled the trigger on a set of 714's.? I just couldn't pass it up
Thanks for your help. BTW most reviews said the same thing you did. From PluggedInGolf:
"The Titleist 716 AP1 irons have cool new branding and the desired forgiveness they’re historically known for, but at the end of the day, they’re essentially the same AP1 we have seen time and time again. Much like the 716 AP2, the 716 AP1 is a great option if you are just looking to replace a crusty set of 710’s or 712’s, but if your 714 AP1s are good to go, then there’s no need to hurry into the new set."
From one of the reviews I can across. Again, just shows you how testing and reviews can differ:
A serious distance upgrade. The 716 AP1 irons have thin, unsupported club faces that make them a challenger in the distance category. The addition of 50 percent more tungsten allowed engineers to keep the size of the irons the same, yet make them more forgiving than their predecessors.
From one of the reviews I can across. Again, just shows you how testing and reviews can differ:
A serious distance upgrade. The 716 AP1 irons have thin, unsupported club faces that make them a challenger in the distance category. The addition of 50 percent more tungsten allowed engineers to keep the size of the irons the same, yet make them more forgiving than their predecessors.
Zak is a good writer and a great guy.
They way they review, and the way we do are pretty different, but I enjoy reading them all and always will.
I stand by my findings, the updates are minimal based on what I saw side by side time and again, but sometimes the brain is what matters most.
They're solid irons, no one has said they aren't. There's simply not enough difference from the 714 to get me to jump that way.
I agree that the 716s are not a massive change from the 714s with the biggest change being the looks. However, I can't help but wonder exactly how many yards or how many degrees of launch need to be gained over the predecessor of any release for us to call them a success? Most clubs that I test simply do not outperform their predecessors in any meaningful way from year to year and I've voiced that frustration on the forum in the past.