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I see your point however just in my last round I saw a player hit the fairway, hit about 10 yards from the green in some rough and proceed to take 4 chips and 2 putts for an even 8.
Did he have some holes where he got into some trouble off the tee, of course. But if one hits it into a hazard off the tee with an improved #UpAndDown they could save a high number and still get bogey.
I read his post and dont see anywhere where he said that. In fact I dont see where he said anything of the sort.
I agree, I used that example since he said the driver doesn't set you up for par.
Your right, it was birdie. He said:
No one has ever birdied a hole because of a good drive.
These are two totally different things.
rtparty never said a good deive does not set you up...
like the video
Me too, that's why some of the hulabaloo confuses me.
When he says no one has ever birdied a hole because of a good drive, he is discounting the driver. Common sense dictates that a birdie is made by the totality of the shots played, I get that. However, it doesn't matter how good you are, but you are not making par on a hole if you hit your tee shot OB unless you are really good at holing out. You are going to struggle to make par if you hit a drive into any other hazard, and you will still have your work cut out for you if you hit a drive that puts you in a poor position.
When he says no one has ever birdied a hole because of a good drive, he is discounting the driver. Common sense dictates that a birdie is made by the totality of the shots played, I get that. However, it doesn't matter how good you are, but you are not making par on a hole if you hit your tee shot OB unless you are really good at holing out. You are going to struggle to make par if you hit a drive into any other hazard, and you will still have your work cut out for you if you hit a drive that puts you in a poor position.
Why do you always go back to the whole sheep thing man? Its kind of offensive to be honest. I completely understand your view point on this matter and we are obviously not going to "crown" a winner but I dont see why you always make it "us" against you the supposed voice of reason.Why is discussion/debate hullabaloo here? I thought the sites motto was to get real information out to real amateur golfers? Not "blindly follow whatever is put out because someone says so".
Why do you always go back to the whole sheep thing man? Its kind of offensive to be honest. I completely understand your view point on this matter and we are obviously not going to "crown" a winner but I dont see why you always make it "us" against you the supposed voice of reason.