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Yikes, not sure id consider them as having all their things together, by a LONG shot.Have them hire whoever does Taylormade advertising and marketing.
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Yikes, not sure id consider them as having all their things together, by a LONG shot.Have them hire whoever does Taylormade advertising and marketing.
Yikes, not sure id consider them as having all their things together, by a LONG shot.
We differ there, I think the TM marketing department is weak if not a total cluster. What’s saved their ass so far is Trottie.I thought the TP5 ball commercials were genius - tour pros in a threesome inviting regular Joes to play golf with them and the horde follows - sort of like real life in terms of how marketing is supposed to work.
Or the pros hitting balls together and talking about their clubs - Tiger, Rory, et al
Or the Titleist commercials where various pros are hitting shots and touting the ball
Srixon needs a few well known pros - it's all about marketing at this point.
Or you can just have some fun with it - longer, straighter and face flexing genius...
We differ there, I think the TM marketing department is weak if not a total cluster. What’s saved their ass so far is Trottie.
But I think sometimes we forget that Srixon isn’t going to be TM or Callaway, would they want that piece of the pie? Of course, but that’s not where they are or where they can just jump to with a change here or there and a tour player. Contrary to what some say, there are TWO tour players that truly move gear, two, maybe 2.5 if you include Phil.The point is Srixon needs to be out there with presence - stores and social media. Actually, I don't know anyone doing it well these days but I appreciate TM's YouTube vids with Jason, Rory, Tiger, et al. Guys playing short game and the TM rep throws them a new club and says "What do you think?"
You find different strategies to appeal to a larger piece of the pie.
But I think sometimes we forget that Srixon isn’t going to be TM or Callaway, would they want that piece of the pie? Of course, but that’s not where they are or where they can just jump to with a change here or there and a tour player. Contrary to what some say, there are TWO tour players that truly move gear, two, maybe 2.5 if you include Phil.
Those videos you speak of are Trottie being Trottie, and not anything pre ordained by TM marketing, they’re just recording a rep who’s always had a big personality.
I think you’re underestimating their global recognition.I did not recognize the Trottie reference. He does a good job.
I don't know how Srixon gets recognition unless they rebrand as Cleveland Golf.
I think you’re underestimating their global recognition.
I’m not sure that can happen with ownership, but to be fair they have steadily grown since entering the space. Including XXIO which did very well last yearI did not recognize the Trottie reference. He does a good job.
I don't know how Srixon gets recognition unless they rebrand as Cleveland Golf.
I’m not sure that can happen with ownership, but to be fair they have steadily grown since entering the space. Including XXIO which did very well last year
I think TaylorMade is just riding its name right now - Srixon marketing is pretty darn goodHave them hire whoever does Taylormade advertising and marketing.
I think TaylorMade is just riding its name right now - Srixon marketing is pretty darn good
I’m a bit cynical here but I think the US market is stubborn for several cycles. Make something good long enough and it takes notice.No doubt - but the US is a nice market. I'm brainstorming for solutions ... solutions to their US dilemma
I guess I’m also lumping Cleveland in with it too to be fair.Guess I'm missing something then. Haven't seen it that often and I do watch TGC. But guys have posted that Srixon clubs are not that readily available. I guess when Covid is vaccinated out of us in the next 7 months and Demo Days are one again more of an event, they will get their product out there. Good luck to them.
I do like the Srixon Z Star.
You were absolutely mashing the ball with those numbers. The driver and hybrids are about as good as I’ve seen and I COMPLETELY agree that the Riptide shaft pairing with the hybrid is outstanding.Got a chance to hit the ZX fairway and hybrid yesterday, and thought they were excellent. This is my first time trying Srixon woods (ever), so didn't really have much in the way of expectations. Below are my impressions of each:
ZX Hybrid 3 (19*) and 4 Hybrid (22*):
I went in to the shop specifically to look at the 5-wood/3-hybrid/3-iron spot in the bag (can never decide what to hit here) as I'm not very happy with my Sim Max hybrid right now. I tested out a few different hybrids including G410 and Callaway Apex. The ZX looks great at address, and I much prefer the sound/feel at impact over my Sim Max. Performance-wise, I was carrying the 3-hybrid into 3-wood territory with solid descent angles. 4-Hybrid was about 15-20 yds shorter, which is about perfect distance-wise for the spot I'm looking for. Unfortunately forgot to take a pick of the launch monitor #s.
Also, a quick comment on the stock shaft - I really enjoyed the Evenflow Riptide shafts in both fairway/hybrid. First time hitting them and didn't seem to have any release-timing issues that I had with Evenflow Blue in the past.
ZX Fairway 3-Wood 15*:
3-wood also felt/looked great to me. I didn't find it sitting closed like the TXG guys mentioned in their review (I'm picky about this too), but may have been just the demo I was swinging. Performance-wise, also really good. Ball-speed and distances were about the furthest I've even seen out of a 3-wood off the deck, which was the main reason I went with the Sim Max. Attached photo is of the first 4 swings. Great contact on all 4 shots despite the accuracy issues Hit about a dozen total shots and loved what I saw/felt. Also hit the G410 LST fairway (which was 2nd place to my Sim Max when I purchased last year) but it was a step below the ZX in performance and looks/sound for me.
ZX Utility:
Huge numbers with the 2-iron, going about as far on the fly as the 3-hybrid but with a lot more rollout. 3-iron was also getting some great numbers, but unfortunately couldn't get the descent angles I was hoping for. I don't think I'd have too many issues holding greens in SoCal, but still feel like it wouldn't be as versatile as a hybrid in the same spot. I will say it would be fun to have one of these utilities in the bag as a tee club on narrow courses and/or on windy days.
Sound/Feel-wise I feel like this is a huge step up from the previous Srixon utility, which I only happened to hit last year as a rep mentioned it's the utility-of-choice for most collegiate golfers they get in the shop. I didn't like the "clickiness" of it though (same goes for the Cobra Utility), so thankfully Srixon have improved in that area. Looks great behind the ball too. Can't see too much of the back of the club, which is my preference. Stock recoil shaft in the utilities also seemed to perform well.
Overall:
I'm going back later this week with my Sim Max fairway/hybrid to go head-to-head with the Srixon woods. I want to make sure I'm comparing them back-to-back before jumping to any conclusions. So far though, I'm extremely impressed with the entire ZX lineup (haven't tried the drivers though). And I probably would never have tried these if it wasn't for the ZX irons performing so well for me on a separate trip to the shop. I may end up looking like a Srixon fanboy by the end of January
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You were absolutely mashing the ball with those numbers. The driver and hybrids are about as good as I’ve seen and I COMPLETELY agree that the Riptide shaft pairing with the hybrid is outstanding.
Moment of truth- are they going to replace the TaylorMade?
Thanks! I've only ever seen numbers like that when I was testing Sim Max and Sim Ti woods last year. Unfortunately did not have my TM gamers with me to hit against, so will be going back this week to hit them back-to back. I'll provide another update once I'm able to compare them.
If the Srixon numbers hold up on round 2 of testing then I'd have no problem replacing the TMs
I’m biding my time until the showcase, hoping I get to hit the 7!Anybody pull the trigger on one of these drivers yet?
I’ve convinced a friend to buy one based on one round with mine. The convincing was easy - i didn’t have to say much.Anybody pull the trigger on one of these drivers yet?
I’ve convinced a friend to buy one based on one round with mine. The convincing was easy - i didn’t have to say much.
I got to review the ZX5 and I can’t imagine wanting to even try the 7 with the combination of speed and forgiveness I’ve been seeing. Riptide all day for me, but I’m not sure what he is ordering. He knows his game enough but it wouldn’t shock me to see a riptide in there too.Which model and shaft did you and your friend go with?