Good luck with that.Nooooooooo, I am going to be the voice of reason for a little bit
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Good luck with that.Nooooooooo, I am going to be the voice of reason for a little bit
No. I am saying that I hit any 41° degree Club the same Distance. Regardless of the Stamping.
Gapping issues with a 41 degree PW. To cover the 19 degrees to 60 degree Wedge it requires 5 or six Wedges if you count the book ends.Who the **** is having to play 6 wedges?
I'm so confused.
I was going to ask to play everything strong in my MC bag, but I decided against it, mainly due to the posts in the that thread
The hell if it does. Maybe if you have no clue how to partial swing anything.Just
Gapping issues with a 41 degree PW. To cover the 19 degrees to 60 degree Wedge it requires 5 or six Wedges if you count the book ends.
41, 45, 49, 53, 57, 60 is one example of the Gapping. Or 41, 46, 51, 56, 60 is another. So using 5 or 6 Wedges to gap the 40 to 60 degrees of loft isn't that strange. It was just called different names. Numbers plus a PW, SW. Versus our current Stamping system ?
Okay, I will bite. If people are complaining about lofts, but need 3 clubs to cover 7 degrees, then they need to work much much harder at making clean contact, because something is amiss.41, 45, 49, 53, 57, 60 is one example of the Gapping.
It would be a first for me to witness.I really hope you make it to a THP Experience at some point. Because that is absolutely incredible to me and I can’t wait to see it.
You can choose to gap at 3, 4, 5, or 6 degree intervals. Or 10 to 20 yards of difference Distances between clubs. And every other combination.If you play "jacked lofts" (hate that term), as I do, and your PW is say 43*, just add a 48*,52* and 58* or 48*, 54*, 60*. Both set ups will do the job.
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Gapping issues with a 41 degree PW. To cover the 19 degrees to 60 degree Wedge it requires 5 or six Wedges if you count the book ends.
41, 45, 49, 53, 57, 60 is one example of the Gapping. Or 41, 46, 51, 56, 60 is another. So using 5 or 6 Wedges to gap the 40 to 60 degrees of loft isn't that strange. It was just called different names. Numbers plus a PW, SW. Versus our current Stamping system
Agreed. My Wedges and Putter are killing my scoresOkay, I will bite. If people are complaining about lofts, but need 3 clubs to cover 7 degrees, then they need to work much much harder at making clean contact, because something is amiss.
I'll say it again for those in the back, consistent LOFT gaps do not automatically equate to consistent DISTANCE gaps.
Plus or minus 2 to 5 yards. But not a full Club length. But when I play Cavity Backs I have those occasional Fliers that go two clubs longer than expected. Operator error.I really hope you make it to a THP Experience at some point. Because that is absolutely incredible to me and I can’t wait to see it.
Extremely well doneOften overlooked in this debate and in IMO, one of the reasons why manufactures have gone to stronger lofts and they work for many is most amateurs add loft to their irons at impact trying to help their shots into the air. This scooping effect can easily change effective loft by 3-4* or more at impact and is the reason why many average golfers have trouble hitting a full LW or SW. An average Tour Pro or low index golfer does the opposite and delofts their irons to varying degrees at impact which is why many of the players irons that you see on tour or in the bags of low index amateurs are not anywhere near the strongest lofted sets. I’m already delofting my irons at impact so there is no need to go even further. Plenty of sets like mine still have a 46* PW. I’ve hit a 41* PW and it launched too low with too little spin for me to have good control of the distance. The physics can only be pushed so far which is why the most important approach/greenside scoring clubs, the SW & GW are still all lofted 54-60*. When I played irons that had lower CG, more distance, and less spin for a brief period I found my proximity to the hole was not as good and switched back to a set with higher lofts, higher CG, and more spin. They don’t go as far but I have better birdie chances with them.
Bumping this again as it is true and several statements in this conversation disagree with the above. I would argue that I could give you several different clubs which were 41 degrees and with the same swing they would absolutely go different distances.I'll say it again for those in the back, consistent LOFT gaps do not automatically equate to consistent DISTANCE gaps.
I absolutely believe you.Bumping this again as it is true and several statements in this conversation disagree with the above. I would argue that I could give you several different clubs which were 41 degrees and with the same swing they would absolutely go different distances.
PW 41, PW46, GW50, SW 54, LW 58, SUPER DUPER FLOP WEDGE 64
but they would all launch the same, launch like a ___ iron...Bumping this again as it is true and several statements in this conversation disagree with the above. I would argue that I could give you several different clubs which were 41 degrees and with the same swing they would absolutely go different distances.
Fun fact, the reason the vast majority of people hook offset clubs is because they set them up improperly, aligning the toe with the hosel at setup.I absolutely believe you.
I can only honestly share my own personal experience.
Not a double blind randomized trial.
Not even empirical data. My sample size is too damn small. Total only personal experience.
And God knows I haven't tested all clubs recently released or ever built since 2000.
But I also avoided any Club with a offset. I have lost enough golf balls to the left. My swing Flaw.
But cheers to my next Club fitting. I will try and honestly find the Outliers.
But also during most of my other club fitting, we could barely find 6 or 7 irons from different OEM'S and within an OEM'S product lines with the same lofts.
There's literally a 10 or more degrees different between clubs of similar Stamping. So it is actually very likely that I have never hit 3 clubs exactly 41° degrees during one Club fitting.
Whether they have PW, 7, 6, Or any other clubs is pure luck. They have the heads they have, and they approximate what your full set will be from this data.