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So, this winter has sucked. I got to go on this sweet trip, get some sweet gear, and sit at home staring at it doing nothing with it basically. I decided that I had to get my fix in. I made an appointment, took the day off, then made the hour long drive to get to the only trackman in any sort of reasonable driving distance to me. I had gotten some numbers for my review there about a month ago.
This time, I was bringing the Ventus Red I was fit for as well as the two LAGP shafts I was lucky enough to get the opportunity to test. My goal was to figure out what shaft was the stand out between them and then do some head to head testing between my standard Mavrik and the Mavrik SZ.
I started with the SZ because that was a club I hadn't had the opportunity to try and I was really eager to see what it was all about. Now, I have been trying to work on my swing after noticing that my release was a little later than it should be. Speed was up pretty significantly from the last time I was there topping out at 118 swing speed and 175 ball speed. I hit 178 ball speed a few times. But, whenever I got to 177 or higher, the unit wouldn't read the swing speed and was giving a double spin reading. The owner said that it struggles once ball speed gets that high. He offered to throw a metallic dot or something on the ball so it would read better. But, it wasn't happening all the time or enough to make me too concerned.
I started with the Ventus Red 7X tipped an inch and was seeing some good performance. It felt like there was a little more movement in the shaft than I wanted. So, I switched over to the LAGP TPOC 65X also tipped an inch. Feel was much tighter and the results seemed to show it. I wasn't tagging shots at that point, just going off of what I was seeing. Contact was improved and dispersion was better.
So, I started tagging the two clubs. First up was the Mavrik SZ. I love the feel of this club. It is similar to the standard so there's no surprise there. But, I like the visual package a bit better in the SZ. It looks a lot more similar to what I am used to playing coming from the EF SZ last year. Numbers were pretty good. Was seeing some pretty decent spin numbers. And some great efficiency. I had some wild shots as I worked to improve the timing of my release.
Here are the initial numbers of the SZ. I don't know how to work the Trackman menus so it took me forever to find this screen and I had no idea how include some of the other data. For some reason, this list didn't have the launch angle that was showing before.
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Then, it was time to switch over to the Mavrik Standard. I was really surprised to see some of the spin numbers I was getting with the Standard. Some really well struck shots were giving me some pretty high spin numbers, for me anyhow. I am typically a low spin guy. So, seeing some of these creep well into the high 2000's was surprising. After some internal reflection and some analysis of the data, I suspect that my ball position is too far forward. By a great deal. I was seeing my AoA get as high as 8 degrees. I am probably delivering so much spin loft into the ball. Also surprising was that I didn't seem to be swinging the standard any faster than the SZ. While the Standard doesn't win based on distance or visuals, I will try to do another comparison after I figure out my ball placement.
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I decided to try the SZ with the heavy weight forward to see what kind of difference there was in ball speed and efficiency as well as spin. I honestly didn't feel like the heavy weight forward was nearly as punishing as some make it sound. While, it's probably not as forgiving, it's not as punishing as some would lead you to believe. It knocked the spin down a bit. But, it also felt more powerful at impact. Some shots were getting wild. But, it was after hitting almost 100 shots in about 50 minutes. I was beat. Plus, the big misses were path related. The efficiency was still there.
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There are some things for me to take away from being able to collect data like this. First, I need to work on some of the fundamentals that always seem to escape me during our long winter layoff. Second, both of these heads are solid options. I suspect that when I get my AoA figured out, the spin numbers on the Standard will come down to a more "optimal" range for me. Also, my launch angle will come down as well resulting in some increased carry.
You and me both brother! HahaI am 98% certain the Mavrik SZ is easier for me to hit with the heavy weight forward, that is completely oppossite of the Prior SZ models that had 2 weights. Putting the Heavy weight forward in those made it unplayable for me.
Of course I need a strong Drive and Wedge to get to Radiman's short Drives are but that is what it is..
You and me both brother! Haha
He’s an ANIMAL!
I used to swing fast.he and @NoShanks had some serious speed. then we had guys like @j_sizzle9 @zbeekner4 @badolds and @clarkgriswold who all have some serious power too. it was a really fun team to be a part of.
Really looking forward to this!!!! Should be very interesting.I will say this. We are planning on having all three heads at #RangeDays and I believe @Canadan is going to make me swing them. I want to level the field between the three, and see what happens.
Looking forward to getting head to head comparisons between these, and all of the other OEM offerings for that matter. Also, all of this Max praise has me really wanting to get in and check that puppy out.I will say this. We are planning on having all three heads at #RangeDays and I believe @Canadan is going to make me swing them. I want to level the field between the three, and see what happens.
I was pretty shocked by the spin numbers the other day in the max.Looking forward to getting head to head comparisons between these, and all of the other OEM offerings for that matter. Also, all of this Max praise has me really wanting to get in and check that puppy out.
Have you had any chance to go head to head with your G410? Any chance that it gets dethroned at the top of the bag?I was pretty shocked by the spin numbers the other day in the max.
I’ve got the LST so it’s not apples to apples, and the whole shaft built just for me in that head thing haha.Have you had any chance to go head to head with your G410? Any chance that it gets dethroned at the top of the bag?
So apparently Callaway does not offer the Helium in more than Regular flex, even in custom???? Seriously. Ugh.
I noticed that last year too.
This is awesome. Try to save your trackman data and post it when it get it all done. Will be cool to see the comparisons from the rogue offering.Stopped by DICKs earlier and they only had the Max in stock. I didn't swing any but I already like the club head size. One thing I really like about the Rogue is the larger sized club head. Now I have the Standard in Rogue and am interested in seeing the Standard Mavrik but at initial first look glance the Max looked very nice.
I'll hit the Mavrik the weekend of the 24th against my Rogue on the Trackman and see what produces what and if a new driver will be in the bag!
I got some pretty sweet spin numbers with Max, as well.I was pretty shocked by the spin numbers the other day in the max.
I think you’re going to love the Max. Just a guess.Stopped by DICKs earlier and they only had the Max in stock. I didn't swing any but I already like the club head size. One thing I really like about the Rogue is the larger sized club head. Now I have the Standard in Rogue and am interested in seeing the Standard Mavrik but at initial first look glance the Max looked very nice.
I'll hit the Mavrik the weekend of the 24th against my Rogue on the Trackman and see what produces what and if a new driver will be in the bag!
It’s funny how different we all are. I actually find the Max to be just a little dull sounding to me and wouldn’t want something quieter. I have a nice middle ground I like because I thought the Srixon z585 sounded like a horrendously loud titanium bomb going off. Yet I love the sound of my Cobra F8 which falls somewhere between the two. I can live with the sound of the Max and I am already getting more used to it after just 2 trips to the range but I don’t think I could adjust to something that has less sound.Issue is I don't know what my ball speed was with the Rogue. I tend to believe that the Rogue/Standard were probably more in line and that the SZ was a little less. So not so much that I gained ball speed, but probably the SZ just wasn't for me.
Totally agree.
It was enough that it was the first thing I noticed when I hit the Max. Not bad, just different. Max is louder.