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Cool! No big steel plate on the back like Bumble Bee.
Cool! No big steel plate on the back like Bumble Bee.
Cool! No big steel plate on the back like Bumble Bee.
Sure I'll tell yah.Out of curiousity ( and serious question here), is it strictly the looks that you are going for? That very traditional clean, single piece of metal, approach? Does performance factor in at all? For instance, if you hit an iron that is a single slab of metal absolutely horribly but it looks great to the eye vs a club that looks like a transformer mated with a 6 iron but it performed amazing in distance, spin, and control. Where's the line where you would cross over?
I asked because I am legitimately curious. I have a few friends that are obsessed with seeing "something" on the back of their irons. Doesn't matter what or by what company, but if its too plain to the eye, they won't even try to swing it which never made sense to me. That seems to be the opposite from your viewpoint but similar concept.
Sure I'll tell yah.
Every company makes a great iron set. There is no difference in my testing of all the irons. So if my 7 iron test yields a distance of 175yrd +/- 5 yrds, spins within 300rpm, height about the same and feels the way I like it to feel, then it comes down to the look. They have to look good to the eye, inspire confidence and look great in the bag.
If we compare Mizuno, Honma, Callaway, TaylorMade, Srixon etc the performance will be similar. Feel and look is then the deciding factor.
Sure I'll tell yah.
Every company makes a great iron set. There is no difference in my testing of all the irons. So if my 7 iron test yields a distance of 175yrd +/- 5 yrds, spins within 300rpm, height about the same and feels the way I like it to feel, then it comes down to the look. They have to look good to the eye, inspire confidence and look great in the bag.
If we compare Mizuno, Honma, Callaway, TaylorMade, Srixon etc the performance will be similar. Feel and look is then the deciding factor.
I see what you're getting at, but for me I'd way rather have an iron that looks great at address, like the X Forged CB, than an iron that looks sharp in the bag but not good at address like the HMB or the i500.
Still, plenty of options for everyone. I can only assume by your repeated efforts in this thread that you were hoping to love the XF-CB, and just don't.
To say the least..This thread got er interesting.
To say the least..
The aesthetics are just a very small piece of the puzzle with this iron. I know they are trying to highlight the customization that the centered weight brings. I think the real story is the multi material construction that allows them to deliver a pretty forgiving, pretty consistent iron in such a small package. My time with it was limited. But, I can say that it delivered on what they promised, at least on my initial test.Not my cup of tea, but I don't think they look that bad and based on the data that Dan posted/spoke to, I think they would TRANSFORM anyone's iron game
I'll agree that the plate on the back isn't going to win any beauty contests, but for me it's not enough to keep me from buying and playing the irons. I'm glad that Callaway seems to be continually refining the overall head shape, and this (and the new MB) are really well done on the front side.I've always thought the X forged line was geared towards the"better" players, ball strikers, those that wanted to work and flight the ball or simply the lower cappers. How many of those players are going to need customization from the center weight? I guess I just don't get it like others do. I have no doubt as with Dan's testing video that they hit great and deliver. But I still can't get over the plate and I really want to.
I actually believe those players want to dial in swing weight more than anybody.I've always thought the X forged line was geared towards the"better" players, ball strikers, those that wanted to work and flight the ball or simply the lower cappers. How many of those players are going to need customization from the center weight? I guess I just don't get it like others do. I have no doubt as with Dan's testing video that they hit great and deliver. But I still can't get over the plate and I really want to.
It's not something that only benefits a better player though. Any set of irons should be swing weighted for a consistent feel through the set. I see two benefits. One, is that it is going to be very easy for Callaway to do it at the factory allowing any combination of shafts, grips, and lengths to be used. Two, not having to use tip weights does exactly what they say, keeps the CG in a consistent position behind the ball. Golfers of all skill levels can benefit from that I think.I've always thought the X forged line was geared towards the"better" players, ball strikers, those that wanted to work and flight the ball or simply the lower cappers. How many of those players are going to need customization from the center weight? I guess I just don't get it like others do. I have no doubt as with Dan's testing video that they hit great and deliver. But I still can't get over the plate and I really want to.
Definitely a personal preference thing. I care more about the look from address. Too much offset / very thick top lines / very chunky in general are what I don't like to see. I put performance first. If a club works best for me I can get past most visual objectionsI love my Callaway Apex Pro's!! Just don't like transformer weird looking irons unless it's the hot chick in the movies.
That's what I'm saying. It has to look slick. At address, inspiring confidence and in the bag which is cool when challenging a gamer trying have swagger. Then a huge shut down as the irons fade, draw, fly over the flag and spin back like a stud.I see what you're getting at, but for me I'd way rather have an iron that looks great at address, like the X Forged CB, than an iron that looks sharp in the bag but not good at address like the HMB or the i500.
Still, plenty of options for everyone. I can only assume by your repeated efforts in this thread that you were hoping to love the XF-CB, and just don't.