Heckling Fans

[MWard]

This is why I’m such a huge supporter of school uniforms. It creates an environment and expectation of discipline and structure. Thank you so much for the exceptional post; I couldn’t agree more with every word.


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Sure made getting dressed easy in the morning. What color polo do I feel like wearing today?

 

[OGputtnfool]

Sure made getting dressed easy in the morning. What color polo do I feel like wearing today?

This is why I’m such a huge supporter of school uniforms. It creates an environment and expectation of discipline and structure. Thank you so much for the exceptional post; I couldn’t agree more with every word.


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School uniforms are fine as long as the school is providing them. Why should I need to go buy more clothes that are likely going to be only used for school when I have already spent gobs of money on a wardrobe for my kid(s) that is more than acceptable.

 

[rollin]

School uniforms are fine as long as the school is providing them. Why should I need to go buy more clothes that are likely going to be only used for school when I have already spent gobs of money on a wardrobe for my kid(s) that is more than acceptable.

technically the schools isn't providing them because that's just coming from your tax dollars anyway.

 

[OGputtnfool]

technically the schools isn't providing them because that's just coming from your tax dollars anyway.

Well, I'd think the majority of schools with uniforms are private schools. Not sure I've seen a public school with uniforms, but I'm sure they're out there.

 

[MWard]

School uniforms are fine as long as the school is providing them. Why should I need to go buy more clothes that are likely going to be only used for school when I have already spent gobs of money on a wardrobe for my kid(s) that is more than acceptable.

Never seen a private school provide uniforms. Then again if you’re fretting about the uniform cost, the tuition bill is much much worse.

Related: made my stuff last all four years so it was basically a one time buy.

 

[OGputtnfool]

Never seen a private school provide uniforms. Then again if you’re fretting about the uniform cost, the tuition bill is much much worse.

Related: made my stuff last all four years so it was basically a one time buy.

The private schools I attended didn't have uniforms, but had a fairly strict dress code.

 

[brianmk24]

I thought that singing Happy Birthday to Phil on the first tee was pretty cool or even saying it as he approached the green was okay, but the usual yelling nonsense was annoying to a TV viewer. I think that it has gone on too long and it was exacerbated by the NY fans.

I've heckled the other team at a few basketball and soccer games in my day so I had to laugh at "Nice shot, chubby, " especially since I'm not a PReed fan.

 

[rollin]

I thought that singing Happy Birthday to Phil on the first tee was pretty cool or even saying it as he approached the green was okay, but the usual yelling nonsense was annoying to a TV viewer. I think that it has gone on too long and it was exacerbated by the NY fans.

I've heckled the other team at a few basketball and soccer games in my day so I had to laugh at "Nice shot, chubby, " especially since I'm not a PReed fan.

yea, its one the things I hate about being a native NYer. Its one the reasons I left. All the things I don't like as for the direction society is heading with common courtesies and etiquettes are just too dominant in NY but unfortunately I still have to work there and have too much family still there. Its a love/hate relationship for me with NY. Although as far as sports teams fans go Id say Philly is pretty disgusting displays of poor etiquettes even by NY standards. But I suppose for another thread..lol

 

[dsw1519]

I do agree with a lot of the things stated in the posts immediately above. Generally common courtesies and basic showing of respect seems to be less than years ago. What is unfortunate is it's not hard to be courteous and say good morning, thank you and you're welcome. I worked in NYC for 20 years so I know the NY aggressiveness all to well.

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[NewGlfr]

I agree. Why does everyone have to be included in everything the way they want it to be via stripping barriers to make it so they can come and do as they wish? I mean if someone wants to participate in something that has some expectations via certain codes then what is wrong with that and what is wrong with that person adhering to it instead of demanding the codes and expectations be withdrawn? Imo golf is one the few things left where better conduct etiquettes are still of concern as we just don't have that many things anymore which help preserve it. If for no other reason but that, Im a fan of what Armygolf said. Its not elitism. Im about the least elitist person I know. But I do feel saddened that so many things we had have become more and more lacking in codes of conduct and its nice to see something that still values it.

Why? Because the rules of conduct aren't followed, nor enforced.

"We want to make Golf more inclusive". So now we have a bunch of drunk, out of control morons heckling at Tournaments. "Golf needs to relax and not be so stuffy". Now we have a bunch of drunk, out of control morons heckling at Tournaments.

So what do WE want? It is obvious that the more people "involved" the more likely there will be D-Bags in that group. So what's the solution?

 

[PatsFan]

I do agree with a lot of the things stated in the posts immediately above. Generally common courtesies and basic showing of respect seems to be less than years ago. What is unfortunate is it's not hard to be courteous and say good morning, thank you and you're welcome. I worked in NYC for 20 years so I know the NY aggressiveness all to well.

Lack of common courtesy and General Decency and Decorum along with Compassion is lacking nowadays. Everyone is so wrapped up in their own little world and Everyone thinks it's ok to act like a Ass because they think they are somehow "Special".

It would be real easy to get a lot of this nonsense to stop at golf tournaments.

#1 STOP SELLING ALCOHOL!!!
#2 see #1

Now we all know the tournaments make a LOT of money from alcohol so this will never happen.

 

[subvet]

In the previous post I said it should not matter as long as they are taking care of the course. I agree if someone is destroying the course and exhibiting the behavior you mentioined above, they should be escorted off the property. As far as dress code goes, I just do not see a purpose for it. People should be allowed to play golf no matter what they are wearing.

I think golfers just need to grow a thicker skin. As long as what is being shouted is tv appropriate, I do not think it should matter. I think the guy heckling Spieth was funny. I loved seeing Poulter get ratteled and my favorite of all was players like Koepka who go out there and don't complain. They play good golf and ignore the hecklers.

no, it's up to a specific golf course who they let in. it's their establishment, they get to make the rules. if a person wants to dress in cut-offs and a wife-beater, they can go find a field to play in with their like minded buddies.

the difference between golf and other sports has been mentioned numerous times by others in this thread. it's an individual sport, and the fans are within a few feet of the players. they aren't as insulated from obnoxious fans by being part of a team, the distance of the field to the stands, and the general level of noise involved in stadium sports.

this is how these professionals (men and women) make a living and distractions affect the outcome of their performance. anyone who doesn't understand or respect those dynamics, doesn't really have any business debating the issue or being on a golf course as a spectator during professional play.

 

[2BFAST]

no, it's up to a specific golf course who they let in. it's their establishment, they get to make the rules. if a person wants to dress in cut-offs and a wife-beater, they can go find a field to play in with their like minded buddies.

the difference between golf and other sports has been mentioned numerous times by others in this thread. it's an individual sport, and the fans are within a few feet of the players. they aren't as insulated from obnoxious fans by being part of a team, the distance of the field to the stands, and the general level of noise involved in stadium sports.

this is how these professionals (men and women) make a living and distractions affect the outcome of their performance. anyone who doesn't understand or respect those dynamics, doesn't really have any business debating the issue or being on a golf course as a spectator during professional play.

For the record, that wasn’t my post.

 

[subvet]

For the record, that wasn’t my post.

I understand. my response wasn't intended to be directed at you. sorry if it came across that way. my intention was for it to be a general reply in the theme of the thread. it's my opinion only and was in response to a number of other replies/point made by other participants.

There are other things about golf that should be done to attract more people to the sport and I think there are other threads on this DB where that's been/being debated.

I just don't buy the whole argument that standards of conduct should be loosened for the sake of getting more fans to enjoy the sport. to me, that's a race down to the lowest common denominator. it's golf. not the WWF, or a Trump rally. People that don't understand that, probably will when they grow up. :act-up:

 

[billyh]

Here is my outlook on hecklers. As long as it's not racial, vulgar, threatening or durring the players swing it's all just words. I've been the focus of a group of hecklers on more than one occasion and at first it bothered me. But when you step back and realize, that person just did what they intended to do and got underneath your skin. There words have zero merit unless you give it to them. To the guy that said "Nice shot chubby," the correct response should have been "That shot got me a green jacket. Where's yours?" I also think the individual courses need to establish the rules for each venue.

As far as school uniforms go, the county that I live in requires public school students K-12 to wear khaki pants, belt, tucked in blue polo shirts, and black shoes provided by the parents. Some may not agree with it, but I think it is a wonderfull idea.

 

[TXGolfr]

I obviously agree with your take on school uniforms but just can’t get on board with the heckling. Rather than Reed having to think of a witty response to some buffoon, he should have the opportunity to be thinking about his next shot with a clear head. I know if he’s emotionally mature he should be able to block it out of his head, but I just don’t see any upside to the heckling.


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