The reason people answered you that way is because you expressed a desire to hit better shots and, or, shoot lower scores. Most anyone who plays better golf, and certainly a Tour pro, would suggest to you lessons/practice.
All good man. I said it twice in my last post that they didn’t bother me and I genuinely appreciate all the thoughts. Truly. Thinking less is already something that has helped, but I got really only one response that I was truly asking for. A similar handicap who actually bought sgi and they helped him tremendously. I do wonder if there are others out there where equipment buys did help make things click. And to jbs point the answer there shouldn’t be “lessons would help most”.
I’m sure they would but there’s also a reason why they use the equipment they do. And are OFTEN switching out things in their equipment.
That might be the case, although I think very few would agree with your 20 year comment. I know enough about you DG to know you're big time old school. I don't actually think many pros would be in the 5% category on a 20 year iron. If that was the case they'd all be using older irons that they've shot best with in the past. Tiger ain't playing his same irons that he was back in the early 2000's when he was killing it. VERY few are. That aside...
I don't see many doing that for every person seeking advice about club selection, just those who appear to believe club selection will cure all or most of what ails their game when it seems clear the problem is fundamental swing issues. So I look it it more like people telling somebody they don't need a new car when the problem is low windshield washer fluid
That's definitely not what I said. I think some pros could for sure, but I don't think stating what 95% of pros would recommend is a great idea. You like to use these statistics quite often DG, and I just don't know if that's true. I don't know that 95% of pros would ignore equipment entirely if it was within 20 years.
Dg you're bickering on a point that is just largely irrelevant. I've not stated ANYWHERE that I don't think quality shot making is swing technique or practice related. In fact I agree, I think swing technique and practice are VERY important. It's just not what I was asking about in my OP. I'm ok with talking about swing technique and practice, but it really isn't what I was trying to make this post about. I understand the importance of it. 95% is just some total speculative % that your making up though. I just don't know what to do with that.
YAY! This is what I'm looking for. My flight monitor doesn't show angle of attack, but I have a membership at x golf. I just have no idea what kind of attack angle I'd be looking for on lets say a 7 iron? That's the only way I'd be able to figure this out is with a flight monitor correct?
I'll answer this part for myself only. When I see that you are hitting a 5i 110 and a 7i 50-60 yards short of your ideal number I infer that your swing is substantially off, more off than we can reasonably expect forgiving irons to substantially change. Forgiving irons can help but there's a limit to what club technology can do. I say / think this about myself too - my swing variation is greater than what the technology can fix.
IIRC you want a positive number with driver and a negative number with irons. That's a decent starting point.
Was NEVER suggesting they would help with a 5i that's going 110 or a 7i that is 50-60 yards short. Those are bad shots, but I'm not sure what I said to indicate this? Maybe this is my fault.
No i wouldn't say I'm ever making some pro like divot if that's what you mean. I definitely have some divots after the ball, but I can tell on the majority of them i'm hitting like 1/2" or so a little too early and that's when it shaves about 10-20 yards. That's where my question truly comes in...I wonder if that sgi would've given me that yardage back.
Its all good man. I feel like I've walked in your shoes. I remember an instructor telling me my biggest problem was the space between my ears because I thought too much. Anyway, wider soles with weight low and back can help with impact and depending on your contact point on the club face for misses they could also reasonably be expected to add some distance via ball speed retention. Best of luck and enjoy your new sticks!
The Speedzones are not necessarily less forgiving just because the clubhead is smaller. There's a bunch of new tech that goes into newer clubs. (AI face tech, titanium, microspheres, perimeter weighting, shaft technology, etc.) If you haven't yet read any of the threads on the latest new irons offerings, you might be well-served by doing so.
