The PGA Tour continues this week from Detroit Golf Club. Solid field in place as the re-start continues and the course looks outstanding.
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He was lights out on the greens yesterday. Cold so far today.
Wolff makes another birdie. Too early for 59 watch?
Never too early haha.
I just said to a friend of mine that the cut line is going to be CRAZY low. We could definitely see a few 60s and 61s out there today.
For sure. Course is a bit defenseless today. Have seen a few tricky pin positions, but that’s about it. A few of the par 3s are playing short too.
Hovland cooly working his way up the leaderboard.
I saw a friend of mine put out an article on this and I could not disagree more with it.
Its an assumption that its the equipment length and not a mental block, etc.
The guy has more than a handful of wins on tour and is probably the hottest golfer on the PGA Tour right now and all of the sudden he should change the lengths of his clubs?
No disagreement on any of that. I am thinking just wedges. He is choking down on them anyway. I am not saying go away from what is obviously working. Just tweak it a little.
I’m all for information, but that seems excessive
Manipulating his hand position is how he changes distances and flight in a number of areas.
I cannot believe that with his start to the PGA Tour re-start people genuinely believe that he should change his gear to variable length. Obviously Ryan disagrees, but in this instance, he is wrong
I would never say change what works. He is on complete fire. I am just wondering again by comparison what area is lacking and what would make him a dominant force (if not already one). It has to be improvement in that area right? I mean he is out driving everyone and is extremely accurate at doing it. His iron game is really solid, and I think he is a better putter than he gets credit for.
those 50-100 yard wedges which is the area he is living in right now seem to be his bug-a-boo.. haha. He has been a top ten machine and I am really enjoying watching him. I am just wondering out loud.
Not sure and I really don’t care either way. I’ve stayed away from comments regarding his metamorphosis but, had to share this I saw. If he continues beefing up, wins a few but lacks a major will he become know as “Thicky Fowler” ? ?
And @JB could not be more accurate when saying length is not necessarily a problem. OL wedges are not nearly as difficult to work with as people would like you to believe. As @Wildcat4life has been gaming my clubs this week, he has some preliminary thoughts that will be surprising to most. Can’t wait for the final review
He’ll three putt, lol
Hit a 5 iron second right? haha.
he drives is so far he can’t be slow on the fairway, but makes up for it on the greens. He’s brutal at times to watch lining up putts
I dont disagree, but I guess my question is really more in depth and more of a question.
Why when Bryson struggles with wedges is it because of the length of his and anybody else struggles with wedges it is because of their swing, mind, etc?
This is where I struggle so much with Ryan’s piece. Here we have a guy that spent months working primarily on swinging faster and hitting it further. He comes out of the gates hot and is the most talked about on tour. All of the sudden after three top 10s, his wedges are the wrong length.
That is my thought on it, and maybe mine alone.
I just say Bubba get 184 ball speed with at 118 club head speed. That is like a 1.55 smash factor! I think that is impossible. Do they juice the numbers for TV or is it just inaccuracy?
Oh not yours alone, for sure. Question for Ryan, has he ever tried a OL wedge? I don’t mean picked it up and hit a couple shots, I mean actually tried. I imagine the vast majority of people saying the length is the problem has never done that. Not a problem, but the notion that you can’t do everything with a OL wedge is just wrong.
I think you know better than most, that change is not welcomed when it’s not your original idea/thought.
I think with golf media it’s easy to pick on Bryson bc it’s against the grain of “traditional” golf and they have to dig deeper to get a better story/perspective to share.
personally my comments aren’t about the OL theory or how it works for him. They come from trying to understand how the touch shots, wedges and putter, might be holding him back. To your point he’s the hottest guy on tour since the restart so his process is working and many don’t understand it, so they pick it apart.
That is a very fair argument. I guess my thought is just in my very limited experimentation with one length. As I have tried them on the course, I found the wedges the most unruly and hard to play with. He is obviously on a different level and has been doing this a long time so I don’t really compare myself to him. But, that is where I saw the biggest weakness in the philosophy for me.
I also don’t think this is a new thought process with Bryson or one length. I feel like I have heard his wedges are his weakness his entire pro career.
Ryan has tried everything.. How extensive. who knows.
I look forward to the next analysis of a player struggling with wedges and it says to change the length of the wedges
Up until last week DJ couldn’t make a putt, nobody said "go try a long putter" hahahahahah
100% accurate.. haha. Case and point Rory struggles with standard length wedge distance control..
i haven’t seen hit yet, watching pga tour live, but wouldn’t doubt it. Him and Langer have been cheating but no one will call them out.
I think Watson has hit that cliff and is just not good enough to play winning golf on the PGA anymore. He is 41 and the way the younger players are hitting and scoring, it just seems we are going to see a bunch of new stars on the leaderboard. The old guard is moving out.
He’s already a 5 time winner and he is playing better than he ever has. He’ll get a win by the end of the year, I almost guarantee it.
He is on my DK team!!!