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Trout Bum

Trout Bum

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Holy cow that's a scary word and an even scarier disease. Do things like this freak you out? I know we have a ton of members that do a ton of flying and on occasion hop on international flights and such. It's crazy that this has escaped the jungle and is slowly getting into the public. Gives me the chilly willies!
 
It's scary for sure and who knows how far it'll spread?
 
Luckily, it's pretty difficult to transmit ebola - it's not airborne, so you need to come in contact with bodily fluids to contract the disease. One of the main causes of transmission has been the burial process. Not that it wouldn't be a big deal if it spread here, but it wouldn't take up like it has in western Africa.
 
Trout I never gave it much thought. I guess I feel protected by living in the US. Even when I have traveled abroad I take measures and feel safe.
 
Wicked Cool Homeless Man said:
Holy cow that's a scary word and an even scarier disease. Do things like this freak you out? I know we have a ton of members that do a ton of flying and on occasion hop on international flights and such. It's crazy that this has escaped the jungle and is slowly getting into the public. Gives me the chilly willies!
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I work with people that spend time in Africa working at the hospitals that are currently dealing with this outbreak. Those are the people that are nervous about being in and around it. Those of us in the USA don't need to worry about it as mpeterson said.
 
There is a really good book called The Hot Zone about this I read years back. Maybe not Ebola specific, but it was that or Marburg. Either way, pretty frightening. Not from a standpoint of I felt like I was going to get it, but just plain yuck.
 
If not Ebola then something else is gonna set in and wipe a good chunk out. Shame one of the leading doctors fighting on the frontline in Southern Africa just got the disease.
 
Tadashi70 said:
Trout I never gave it much thought. I guess I feel protected by living in the US. Even when I have traveled abroad I take measures and feel safe.
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I am in the same boat as Freddie.
 
it is scary but as long as you don't come in contact with there body fluids you are fairly safe
 
Hawk said:
There is a really good book called The Hot Zone about this I read years back. Maybe not Ebola specific, but it was that or Marburg. Either way, pretty frightening. Not from a standpoint of I felt like I was going to get it, but just plain yuck.
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Nope, you're right Hawk. This book is about Ebola, the research of it's origins and the nastiness it entails. Scary $&!% indeed!
 
I think the Hot Zone covered a number of hemorrhagic fever viruses. Really interesting book, but like Hawk said, yuck.
 
Marc, it does scare me a little bit. However, I feel safe here in the US. Maybe it's a false sense of security, we will see, but I don't see it getting big thankfully.
 
As a microbiologist I find it more fascinating than scary.
 
It's never crossed my mind to worry about things like this. I usually don't get worried until I catch it.....like when I had H1N1. I'd imagine Ebola would be a bit tougher to bounce back from.

I guess all we can do is hope and pray.
 
Orange Hog said:
I heard this on the news just a bit ago. I guess I'm confused on the rationale behind bringing these folks back to the US when they should just set up a quarantine/treatment facility in West Africa instead. Bringing Ebola onto US soil is just not a good idea.
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Because the only top notch facility to deal with them is all right here in the US a couple of miles away from the CDC.

And Ebola is already in the United States, in research facilities across the country. Along with a multitude of other nasty viruses, prions, and bacteria which can really ruin your day.
 
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it is scary but as long as you don't come in contact with there body fluids you are fairly safe
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Probably not that scary if you don't travel internationally, but for those that do, it could be more scary.

Imagine being on a flight from London next to a guy that suddenly starts coughing. Later, you find out he was coming from Africa. Did he cough any saliva on you?

According to reports, the Americans got sick when they thought they were in a "clean" area of the hospital, and a healthcare worker who had the virus was hanging on in there. Now, it doesn't say how they got it, but presumably they weren't swapping fluids with this person.
 
Being a germaphobe it just creeps me out.
 
wadesworld said:
Probably not that scary if you don't travel internationally, but for those that do, it could be more scary.

Imagine being on a flight from London next to a guy that suddenly starts coughing. Later, you find out he was coming from Africa. Did he cough any saliva on you?

According to reports, the Americans got sick when they thought they were in a "clean" area of the hospital, and a healthcare worker who had the virus was hanging on in there. Now, it doesn't say how they got it, but presumably they weren't swapping fluids with this person.
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heath care workes are the most at risk due to the amount of contact potental they have during an outbreak

The Clean area of the hospital in africa is diffrent than what we have here
 
Scary is the fact that blood clotting stops when infected so fluids (blood) leak readily. There is a fairly long incubation period as well meaning time to spread with travel is increased.
 
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Scary is the fact that blood clotting stops when infected so fluids (blood) leak readily. There is a fairly long incubation period as well meaning time to spread with travel is increased.
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But Ebola is a poor virus in the sense that it usually kills its host, decreasing its ability to reach a fairly wide audience. Epidemics tend to burn out quicker than viruses that have longer shedding periods and allow their hosts to remain fairly mobile.

It sounds harsh, and a bit anti-Samaritan, but if it comes between choosing to help someone who is leaking body fluids and protecting yourself ... I am protecting myself if I don't have the proper equipment at hand. That includes a mask while doing CPR ... all too happy to do compressions, but if you want me to give mouth to mouth a one-way CPR mask better be available.
 
Liberian dies in Morocco of Ebola - Internal Affairs Minister discloses
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Internal Affairs Minister Morris Dukuly

MONROVIA - The Minister of Internal Affairs, Mr. Morris Dukuly, has disclosed that a Liberian has died of the deadly Ebola virus in Morocco.The Ebola virus, which has no cure, has killed at least 129 people here, and claimed more than 670 lives across the region. A top Liberian doctor working at Liberia's largest hospital died recently, and two American aid workers have fallen ill, underscoring the dangers facing those charged with bringing the outbreak under control.
Also recently, an official of the Ministry of Finance identified as Patrick Sawyer died of the disease at a Lagos hospital.
As a means of containing further spread of the disease, President Johnson-Sirleaf set up a taskforce to help in the fight of the disease and ordered the closure of the country’s three land borders.
The Liberian leader also ordered that public gatherings be restricted and communities heavily affected by the Ebola outbreak be quarantined.
Making the disclosure at a news conference held at the Ministry on Wednesday, July 30, 2014, Minister Dukuly, who is also the Vice Chairman on the National Ebola Taskforce, further disclosed that the deceased left the country two days before his death.
Although Minister Dukuly did not disclose the name of the Liberian, who he said died of Ebola in Morocco, he averred that this means that there are many more people who are carrying the disease unknowingly.
Against this backdrop, the Internal Affairs Ministry boss called on traditional chiefs to help inform their local people on the threat of the deadly disease.
“You, traditional chiefs, are the owners of the land, and the land is under threat that I have not seen in my life before,” said Minister Dukuly.
“Tell your people to stop running behind health workers. This may cause them to leave. For instance, Samaritan Purse, one of the partners, wanted to leave Lofa County due to threats they received from local people,” he warned.
While urging the chiefs to adequately inform their people, he reminded them that Ebola is real and does not have to claim more lives before people get to believe it.
“We have a common challenge, which seems to be growing. This challenge is Ebola, and we need to fight it. Since the disease was discovered in March of this year,” he noted.
He then lauded the Country Director of the World Health Organization (WHO) Dr. Nestor Ndayimirije for his care shown since the outbreak of the disease in March.
According to him, WHO through Dr. Ndayimirije has provided technical and other supports towards the fight of the disease in the country.
Speaking briefly, WHO Country boss, Dr. Ndayimirije said the disease can be prevented if people observe the necessary precautionary measures.
He disclosed that Ebola has killed 166 people since its outbreak.
Of this number, he said, over 20 health workers have died, while over 45 more are being affected by the disease.
Dr. Ndayimirije also disclosed that a total of 329 cases have been reported since the outbreak of the disease.
“You are the local leaders, tell your people to please support health workers and not to chase them. Samaritan Purse on yesterday said it will not continue because its workers were attacked and chased in Lofa with one of their staff wounded in the process in Foya. Please tell them to stop playing with dead bodies,” he warned.
For his part, the Chairman of the National Traditional Council of Liberia (NTCL), Chief Zanzar Karwor, accepted the request from government and its partners to help in the campaign.
However, he urged that the government shows videos of patients and people who have died from the virus.

There are also 7 suspected cases in the highly populated phillipines. It would appear it is spreading much easier than body fluids, maybe the vapors from coughs or sneezes which would make it airborne.
 
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I understand this is one-sided and we probably have the best treatment here, but in simple terms it seems ridiculous.
 
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