d_in_la
Not so in LA.
I keep ho'ing out this club to everyone I know, and all replies have been positive.
That might be one of the funniest things I've ever read in these forums.
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I keep ho'ing out this club to everyone I know, and all replies have been positive.
Today I was able to iron out a few swing flaws while on the course and get used to the closed face without hooks again. Its only been one round, but I took it slow, figured my stuff out, and went from there. I was able to flight the ball through and around wind, as well as hit draws and straight balls on command with minor misses each way. After remedying my wrist issue, this thing went back to its Cannon-like self. I really have no other ways to describe it. This driver continues to outperform my SuperTri and my FT Tour. My HiBore and VR Str8fit also have never come close to this performance. I have played many drivers over the years at my time at my club, but none have left me with these yardages into greens.
The one thing that keeps screaming back to me is the look of this driver. Many people say they love the classic look of a Titleist driver, and this driver to me, goes right there with it. The sound is like no other, super flat. I keep ho'ing out this club to everyone I know, and all replies have been positive. One guy picked up between 10-20 yds in distance on every hole that he hit it. One guy hit a green 8 times in a row from 285. This thing is the real deal, and I am blessed to have crossed paths with it.
Would you be able to take this driver to a launch monitor? I am curious to see ball speed, launch angle, and spin rate compared to your other driver. I am especially interested in seeing if the launch monitor would show path and face angle at impact - I'm wondering if the heavy backweight allows you to get into the slot any differently than your regular gamer.
This is my gamer. I dont see what benefit there would be comparing it to my other drivers. But I can sure try to get on a launch monitor for some numbers.
Golf is a funny sport.
Yesterday I had my first lesson. Because it looked like I was "working too hard" to swing the Heavy Driver, my instructor brings out 4 other drivers. Two of which I have hit before, and hated. See, I told the instructor he could break my swing, and completely rebuild it with the driver. Unfortunately, it wasn't working well for the HD with all of these changes. I only swung 10 times with it before my instructor made me stop and swing other drivers.
I'm not going to lie, I felt a bit discouraged and a little sad for the HD. But after having a full day now to think about it, I'm actually not going to give up. I have come to this conclusion. When you are making drastic swing changes, the HD is not the club to swing when your trying to 'feel' the swing change. It is heavier, and I'm trying to make every move more pronounced so that I know it's happening. This is probably what makes it look like I'm having to 'work so hard' to swing. Of course the Burner 2.0 will look easier, it doesn't weigh anything.
So, the HD is still in my bag. I'm hitting my 3 wood so well right now, I don't need to replace the HD. I probably will swing a different club to work on the swing changes, but as I get the feel for them, I plan on coming right back to the HD to see if my problems are cured with it. I expect to be at that point by Sunday.
On the other side, I'm not going into great detail on this, but subjectively, and based on distance and dispersion, here is how the HD (with old swing) stacked up against some pretty good competition. All of these are HD old swing vs other driver new swing.
HD v Burner 2.0 - HD wins, Burner 2.0 was all over the place on dispersion, and feels horrible to hit
HD v Burner 2.0 TP - Burner 2.0 TP wins, good dispersion, distance, I still prefer feel of HD though
HD v. Callaway Razr Hawk - HD wins, the Razr felt clunky to hit, too low of launch
HD v Callawaw Diablo - HD wins, better distance, feel, and dispersion
HD v Titleist 910 with stiff (and heavy) RIP shaft - this was a close one, and I'm calling it a tie. Were the shaft maybe not quite as stiff as it was, the 910 would have won, but, the launch was too low.
When these swing changes are made, I hope to come back with an 'updated' review of the HD.
~Rock
Would you be able to take this driver to a launch monitor? I am curious to see ball speed, launch angle, and spin rate compared to your other driver. I am especially interested in seeing if the launch monitor would show path and face angle at impact - I'm wondering if the heavy backweight allows you to get into the slot any differently than your regular gamer.
I went to a local (about 1 1/2 hours away) course that has a bunch of Trackmans set up. I had a bunch of variables that I wanted to test so this was a great opportunity. I included a key along with the Trackman stats. Let me introduce the competitors in the Trackman Challenge. First there is one of the most prolific drivers in golf history. The R11 is a driver driven by amazing adjustability and fantastic marketing. So I felt this was the perfect place to start, the R11 without any backweighting. Next, the Challenger, the Heavy Driver. Our love for the Heavy Driver has been well documented on this forum, but will the numbers back up my claims of greatness. Next, I tested the R11 set at 9* and with 50 grams of backweighting in it. (I combined groups on the print out to make it easier to read). The fourth challenger was my R11 set at 9* with 50 grams of backweight, but it also has a Harrison Shotmaker E flex in it. The Harrison Shotmaker is a product that is supposed to decrease the deformation/deflection that happens at the tip of the shaft when the head impacts the ball. It supposed to do this without adding any relative stiffness to the shaft and ultimately, it is supposed to decrease sidespin. With claims like these I was excited to see if it backed up its claims. After seeing that many of my launch numbers were quite low, I decided to try a couple of unplanned adjustments. I tested my R11 set at 10* with 50 grams of back weight and the Harrison Shotmaker and then the same set up without the Shotmaker. Here are the numbers.
As you can see I am launching the Heavy Driver very low. This was surprising because I didn’t feel like it looked that low and when I compared the two previously on the course, there wasn’t that much difference in distance. But the numbers don’t lie. Also, my launch angle was very low for my R11 when it was set at 9*. There is no doubt that I was more consistent with the backweighting, but the big surprise to me was how much more consistent I was with the Shotmaker in. Now one thing to note is that these were averages, so one shot hit down the middle followed by one 20 yards to the right and one 20 yards to the left would give me an average of 0. That being said, I do think these numbers pretty accurately tell the story. I definitely saw an improvement in my shot dispersion with the Shotmaker in, and this was with the driver set at 9* and 10*. It is clear from the numbers that I should be playing a 10* driver, which is surprising because I was fit for this driver at the Kingdom, but I have begun a swing change that must not be giving me the height I was seeing before. In addition to the lower launch angle, my SS has decrease substantially (by 5 mph), but when I was hitting the R11 set at 10* with the backweight and Shotmaker, I was seeing really good distances as well as improved dispersion.
So what am I taking home from this outing? As far as the Heavy Driver is concerned, I am still very impressed. If you compare the two drivers and the total costs associated with the two and their performance, I would rate the Heavy Driver as a Best Buy. How can I make this statement about a $400 driver? Lets compare the cost of the Heavy Driver vs the R11 TP with Backweighting and the Shotmaker insert in it (this was the driver that performance wise was able to beat out the Heavy Driver). Heavy Driver $400. R11 TP $500 + Backweighting $20 + Shotmaker $140= $660. Yes, my tricked out R11 did perform better than the Heavy Driver (once I got my R11 set to the correct loft), but I really think that if you are looking for a driver to work right off the rack, then I think the Heavy Driver has to be on your shortlist.
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Well that was quite an experience! When I slow my swing down, it goes higher and straighter!
Tonight I focused on only hitting a dead straight ball, and it worked out beautifully. This club continues to amaze me every time out!
I've noticed that the most forgiveness comes from the inside heel. Low on the heel causes a slight fade that is all carry, which only seems to give up 10-15 yds.
Well that was quite an experience! When I slow my swing down, it goes higher and straighter!
Tonight I focused on only hitting a dead straight ball, and it worked out beautifully. This club continues to amaze me every time out!
I've noticed that the most forgiveness comes from the inside heel. Low on the heel causes a slight fade that is all carry, which only seems to give up 10-15 yds.
Played Bear's Best yesterday. Hadn't swung a club in a week so I was not finding the sweet spot very well. Distance loss off the heel wasn't that bad and shots still found the fairway. I did hit two off the toe that didn't fair very well at all though......
@DDelise I took the HD and my Superfast 1.0 to GG to try out on their launch monitor about 3 weeks ago. My superfast had the stock ozik matrix shaft stiff and chopped an inch to bring it down to 1" longer than "standard"(WTF?) Swing speed WAS 1-3 mphs faster with the Superfast but I always hit a big push/fade with it. Launch monitor showed I'ld always come at the ball from the inside but with an open club face. (Ball went right, then a little more right) The superfast being so light I was always swinging out of my shoes way too hard. Ball speed was roughly the same but I was consistently getting better launch angle/spin with the HD. Probably because I couldn't swing as hard.
Is that the best thing you've found in this driver?