Please tell me they are making a Tri-hot Ten-S....
Odyssey Tri Hot Putters (2022)
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Fair given the various price points that exist in the putter realm.
I suppose when I consider what I want a $399USD putter to look like, it's not this. Throwing weird call-outs like 5K on the back is something that I would expect from a $99-$150USD putter that is trying too hard to be relevant and I would expect to give up some sleeker looks for price savings.
I was just making that point - however poorly. I scratch my head at what/why Toulon sells/works - Other than the Columbus - closest off the rack to a long neck putter (ha), I have no interest, in Toulon. I still think that many play what they see the pros play, not what may work best for an individual - so a milled Odyssey would/could be a premium putter - and once you leap into the $400 range I think you are in the premium range (albeit at the bottom end), Scotty's retail at about $425ish - so a $399 Odyssey same difference.
I guess I wonder what Toulon has to offer that makes it premium over Odyseey - for the buyer at retail, vice custom?
I guess I wonder what Toulon has to offer that makes it premium over Odyseey - for the buyer at retail, vice custom?
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That’s fair. We have to remember though, Odyssey has never been about plain and sleek, remember the red ball?
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Agreed, those would classify imo, but since Toulon came in, we have seen a clear differentiation it feels like.
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It's true, the Toulon putters do not appeal to me in the same way a Bettinardi does or a few other brands that command a similar price.
That’s fair. We have to remember though, Odyssey has never been about plain and sleek, remember the red ball?
Yea - and I think I over-generalized with my previous point by saying that I expect premium = sleek, as I am of the viewpoint that the 'premium' (non-standard) Scotties are utterly vulgar in their designs (like Ed Hardy shirts of old) and you tend to see much more intricate milling designs all over the head on the 'premium' putters.
My opinion really stems from the overall image that I carry through life though - I don't like wearing graphic t-shirts or flaunting logos of any kind if I can avoid it (no offense to anyone who likes loud products, that's all personal preference). I just want high-quality, sleek and subtle products that perform and last a long time and having weird things like "5K" that will mean nothing to anyone in 10 years doesn't work for me.
I don't disagree, putter pricing has definitely increased over the last 5 years where $200-$300 seems to be the norm for a "standard" putter. Obviously brands like Cleveland lack the same putter reputation as Odyssey and have to charge less for the same craftsmanship. Same goes for the Mizuno putters at $299 vs $399 for a similar Scotty.
I'd love to know what the annual revenue Callaway gets from Odyssey vs. Toulon. I'm guessing it's 10x or more greater for Odyssey. IMO, once you get to $399 for a putter, you shrink your potential number of buyers considerably. It doesn't make any sense, as the same doesn't hold true for a driver priced at $499 or $549.
The whole thing, even the name. Tri Hot 5k ? Right out of the Out of Ideas factory.
Feels extremely unlikely, but I totally reserve the right to fall in love with one and hate myself for it though.
And yet, the same old three (that was the 2 in O Works I believe) shape that no one buys either.
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Are they really ever out of ideas when they’re the most dominant putter brand in the game year after year?View attachment 9045190
The whole thing, even the name. Tri Hot 5k ? Right out of the Out of Ideas factory.
Feels extremely unlikely, but I totally reserve the right to fall in love with one and hate myself for it though.
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- #61
I think you might be surprised. The Zing remains a super popular shape among the older crowd.
I didn't say ideas on how to sell.
My body is ready
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Honest question here, why do people seem to want forward CG in putters and claim higher MOI/forgiveness, yet in drivers, they seem to try to get the CG as far back as they can for more forgiveness? Just wondering the scientific/analytical reasoning for the difference. I’ve never figured it out.
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People don’t miss significantly on putters, and the forward CG creates a more balanced feel and also can improve roll. Massive perimeter weighting does increase MOI, but it also alters the CG location. Check this review out, I dive into it all:
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Please, I am begging, someone in the know…please tell me that plumbers neck double wide will be available in left handed??? We missed out on the OG double wide last year…..I am trying to speak (type) it into existence!!!
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You could switch to putting RH like I do (play lefty putt righty). Then you can use ALL the putters
But if it hasn't been answered by then, I will try to find out for you in a week and a half! (If I'm allowed to say once I find out that is)
Without a doubt yes. Everything about new line is better than OG to me
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Abso-freaking-lutely you should wait for whatever is coming lol
This makes me wonder if the success of the Frontline series caught Odyssey's attention. Cleveland will never be competition in the putter realm, but have to imagine they've grabbed some market share with the Huntington and Frontline series, because they're incredible values.
My Tri-Hot 3 showed up today. I got fit into both of it's predecessors - the OWorks 2 some years ago and the Stroke Lab 3 at the Grandaddy. So I felt like it was a pretty safe blind buy.
I'm a huge, huge fan of the Ping Zing shape and I'm glad they went to that style of bumpers in this release. I've only been able to roll a few putts on the carpet, but I'm really impressed. The weighting feels just about perfect, I like the stock grip, and there's something to the design in terms of stability. It definitely feels more stable on slight mishits than either of the putters I've used before. I was hitting my lines with it pretty easily with it. It's just a comfortable shape for me.
I'll update with pictures once I can get some better light. But I'm itching to roll it some more, which is a good sign.
I'm a huge, huge fan of the Ping Zing shape and I'm glad they went to that style of bumpers in this release. I've only been able to roll a few putts on the carpet, but I'm really impressed. The weighting feels just about perfect, I like the stock grip, and there's something to the design in terms of stability. It definitely feels more stable on slight mishits than either of the putters I've used before. I was hitting my lines with it pretty easily with it. It's just a comfortable shape for me.
I'll update with pictures once I can get some better light. But I'm itching to roll it some more, which is a good sign.