The Match II: Tiger Woods & Peyton Manning vs Phil Mickelson & Tom Brady

I think the conditions of course weren't ideal, and whenever water is introduced to electronics, there is bound to be issues. Aside from that, was enjoyable to watch for me. (y)
 
Much better than last week's... Good thing they had carts with the monsoon out there. Walking would have been miserable. They gutted it out and have a show.

Disagree. I enjoyed last week much more, and I think it had a lot to do with the carts. I think the use of carts created a separation and cut down on what potentially could have been much more interesting interaction between them. Last week I enjoyed seeing guys carrying their own bags and walking down the fairways together, bantering about. This felt more like two twosomes being paired up, when neither really wanted much to do with the other. Polite, but lacking somewhat in camaraderie. Hit a shot, hop in a cart, and race to the next shot...and still take 5+ hours to get it done.

Still enjoyed every minute of live golf again😉
 
I'm basing my opinion on production value. The banter was better than last week, but the broadcast was terrible. most of the on course shots were terrible angles and constantly paired with awful ambient noise. It was like they left the levels up on all the mics at the same time. Hire a decent mixer! The mere fact that the camera operators never bothered to wipe their lenses made it really nasty to watch.

There was barely any golf commentary, and personally, I think Trevor Immelman is the worst thing to happen to sports broadcasting since Dennis Miller on MNF. Charles Barkley, the other guy, and Ernie Johnson calling golf is like asking Joe Buck to do it while he's in a coma. IThe show would go on for minutes at a time with no words being spoken from either players or the guys in the booth. Instead we get to hear rain drops and grunting.

JT was the only guy who breathed any life into this thing, and he didn't get to say much.

It was like Turner put zero thought into how they were going to produce this. They just sent some guys out with cameras and mics and told them to hit broadcast. Pretty obvious that this was all about ad sales for Turner (I get how TV works, but this was very poorly executed.)
Miller was amazing on MNF, he constantly made obscure references.
 
I can see that side of it. My only point was they wouldn't have been so happy to stay out in the monsoon if walking.
 
Miller was amazing on MNF, he constantly made obscure references.
Oh Lord, I hated Miller on MNF. The funniest thing about it was watching and listening to the interplay between him and Dan Fouts. It was pretty obvious to me that Fouts didn't like him and was aggravated by him, I kept waiting to witness an epic meltdown on national TV in front of millions of viewers. :LOL:
 
I'm basing my opinion on production value. The banter was better than last week, but the broadcast was terrible. most of the on course shots were terrible angles and constantly paired with awful ambient noise. It was like they left the levels up on all the mics at the same time. Hire a decent mixer! The mere fact that the camera operators never bothered to wipe their lenses made it really nasty to watch.

There was barely any golf commentary, and personally, I think Trevor Immelman is the worst thing to happen to sports broadcasting since Dennis Miller on MNF. Charles Barkley, the other guy, and Ernie Johnson calling golf is like asking Joe Buck to do it while he's in a coma. IThe show would go on for minutes at a time with no words being spoken from either players or the guys in the booth. Instead we get to hear rain drops and grunting.

JT was the only guy who breathed any life into this thing, and he didn't get to say much.

It was like Turner put zero thought into how they were going to produce this. They just sent some guys out with cameras and mics and told them to hit broadcast. Pretty obvious that this was all about ad sales for Turner (I get how TV works, but this was very poorly executed.)

I was on the complete opposite. Other than a wet camera lens that needed to be wiped down, I think the production was great considering the weather elements in play.

The only negative I came away with is little to no Tiger banter, but sometimes you can lead a horse to water, doesn’t mean it’s going to drink.

i found the event relatable and showed how when the golfers are pressing or nervous, the banter goes away, just like some of the weekend rounds I’ve been a part of. I’m in no way comparing myself to the pros, but it was cool to see them get quiet and try to grind their way out of a bad swing or hole.
 
I was on the complete opposite. Other than a wet camera lens that needed to be wiped down, I think the production was great considering the weather elements in play.

The only negative I came away with is little to no Tiger banter, but sometimes you can lead a horse to water, doesn’t mean it’s going to drink.

i found the event relatable and showed how when the golfers are pressing or nervous, the banter goes away, just like some of the weekend rounds I’ve been a part of. I’m in no way comparing myself to the pros, but it was cool to see them get quiet and try to grind their way out of a bad swing or hole.
It wasn't really surprising considering that numerous guys have said that Tiger is a richard on the course when playing with them, and not very talkative. I thought the rest of them yukked up it pretty well and were amusing - even Brady, who I'm sure was pretty humiliated by his bad play. Barkley was great, I'd enjoy him being on more golf telecasts too.
 
Disagree. I enjoyed last week much more, and I think it had a lot to do with the carts. I think the use of carts created a separation and cut down on what potentially could have been much more interesting interaction between them. Last week I enjoyed seeing guys carrying their own bags and walking down the fairways together, bantering about. This felt more like two twosomes being paired up, when neither really wanted much to do with the other. Polite, but lacking somewhat in camaraderie. Hit a shot, hop in a cart, and race to the next shot...and still take 5+ hours to get it done.

Still enjoyed every minute of live golf again😉
If they weren’t in carts, they would still be on 15 right now.
 
For what I saw I was pretty well entertained. Phil was talking some smack, but also very cool to hear him how he reads the greens and coaching TB how to play his shot.

Wish tiger engaged in it more though, and even peyton seemed to be quiet down the stretch
 
If they weren’t in carts, they would still be on 15 right now.
I'm pretty sure that considering Tiger's history of back problems, there's not a chance he would have gone for walking 18 and carrying his own bag.
 
It wasn't really surprising considering that numerous guys have said that Tiger is a richard on the course when playing with them, and not very talkative. I thought the rest of them yukked up it pretty well and were amusing - even Brady, who I'm sure was pretty humiliated by his bad play. Barkley was great, I'd enjoy him being on more golf telecasts too.

As much as Brady struggling was tough to watch and slowed down the match, it was the part that kept me engaged bc I wanted to see if he would continue to struggle or turn it around.

nerves seemed to be higher than I imagined given it was for charity and nothing more serious on the line.
 
As much as Brady struggling was tough to watch and slowed down the match, it was the part that kept me engaged bc I wanted to see if he would continue to struggle or turn it around.

nerves seemed to be higher than I imagined given it was for charity and nothing more serious on the line.
Brady is such a competitor that I think his battle was with himself more than anything else. Dude hates to lose at anything.
 
I'm pretty sure that considering Tiger's history of back problems, there's not a chance he would have gone for walking 18 and carrying his own bag.
I don’t disagree, so maybe allow caddies (or push carts) and still let them walk.
 
Brady is such a competitor that I think his battle was with himself more than anything else. Dude hates to lose at anything.

Brady looked to be a bit nervous and embarrassed to me.
 
Brady looked to be a bit nervous and embarrassed to me.
Well, he recently signed with the Bucs, so it’s understandable.
 
Brady looked to be a bit nervous and embarrassed to me.
I think he knew going in that he was outgunned by everybody there, including Peyton. I imagine it's hard for somebody to be the elite of the elite in their sport, and go out there and look like the guy who always gets picked last in gym class.
 
It is funny to me that Tom Brady is possibly the most unathletic future hall of fame athlete to ever live.. haha
 
I am on the side that felt this production was VERY entertaining. Last week was fun, but I truly thought this week, due to the competitors, announcers, and production was fantastically entertaining. I laughed a ton and still had a rooting interest in the competition all the way thru the end. I thought the format was fun with different ideas like the one club hole and small inner game bets. I wish they had a few more of those throughout the round.

The weather really played havoc with the players and such, yet they were all gamers and played thru. Hearing Phil talk about the putting aspect and Tiger with his reads for Peyton were very interesting and even a bit informative.

I am not sure what happened with Tiger down the stretch on talking. Was he in his competitive zone and concentrating or was it just him being a bit more to himself? I don’t know. I did hear a few times the announcer on the course was joking about something he and Tiger were saying, but you never heard it. So, did he have tech issues or was just quiet no idea. Probably, a bit of both.

All in all the main thing was about the charity and they raised over 20 million. Great job on all fronts.
 
I think he knew going in that he was outgunned by everybody there, including Peyton. I imagine it's hard for somebody to be the elite of the elite in their sport, and go out there and look like the guy who always gets picked last in gym class.
his playing was like Matthew Wolfe trying to talk **** to Rory but better.
 
...I thought the format was fun with different ideas like the one club hole and small inner game bets. I wish they had a few more of those throughout the round....
I liked that they were able to weave the format and all the inner game features/bets together without it feeling too gimmicky. To me, they flowed well within the game and didn't take away from the actual play.
 
You know a lot more about all the production stuff than I do so I'll definitely defer to you on that level, but I actually liked that the announcers shut up and let us listen to the banter between the players. A big contrast from last weekend where Tirico ran his mouth nonstop and conducted boring, long-winded interviews which obscured the golf being played.
That's pretty much what I meant. You have 3 guys in there, one is the token golf specialist (Trevor) yet he barely spoke. I felt that the only time he ever really talked about golf was when Barkley was leading him on. I would much rather hear the on-course banter, and the JT, Amanda Balionis stuff than whatever the basketball guys were talking about - same goes for Tirico.
 
his playing was like Matthew Wolfe trying to talk **** to Rory but better.
I thought it was absolute 🔥 when he jarred that approach shot and smacked back at Barkley afterward.
 
It is funny to me that Tom Brady is possibly the most unathletic future hall of fame athlete to ever live.. haha
Married to perhaps the greatest model of all time. Tough life.
 
That's pretty much what I meant. You have 3 guys in there, one is the token golf specialist (Trevor) yet he barely spoke. I felt that the only time he ever really talked about golf was when Barkley was leading him on. I would much rather hear the on-course banter, and the JT, Amanda Balionis stuff than whatever the basketball guys were talking about - same goes for Tirico.
Between the Players and the event last weekend, I've become totally anti-Tirico. He never bothered me before that, but he got on my nerves so hard during both of those, now I'm just instantly irritated as soon as I see his face or hear his voice.
 
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