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Can't wait to try all of these in Yellow this spring to see which one works best for me.
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All this new content this morning is making my head spin.
I'm gonna need a minute.
Solid planI'm not getting anything useful done. I think I need to bug out at lunch, hit the golf store, and then maybe come home, collapse, and work remote this evening.
Solid plan
While I currently play CSX, I think I could have gotten away with any of the three. I was using the wrong shaft flex and had super light iron shafts. Moving forward based on my fitting and new clubs, I think CSX will definitely be the correct fit.It's interesting reading how many people are in the X and LS versions of this ball as opposed to the standard Chrome Soft. Seems like it's around 90%.
To be fair, no one else is using 3D X-ray, X-ray yes, not this newest setup where they can look at every single layer.
They certainly make some pretty measurable claims regarding the new technology, per @Jman :The packaging is way better. Its interesting to hear them claim to have the most advanced 3d xray for golf balls today. Thats a good thing. Not sure its accurate, but being more precise is what we all need in our golf games and we shouldnt be leaving the variables up to out of center layers inside of a golf ball. We are all bad enough on our own. lol.
It doesnt look like the "look" of the ball has changed at all and it sounds like the feel is still there. Worth a harder look now that their engineering and xray capabilities are top notch.
To be fair, that isn't what took place. As a company they said there were issues previously, made a huge investment starting 3-4 years ago. And they are the only ones doing this.
My guy!They certainly make some pretty measurable claims regarding the new technology, per @Jman :
While altering and evolving the core, cover, and aerodynamic properties of the entire lineup is definitely a part of the story, the bigger tale to be told is what Callaway calls “Concentricity Offset”. In the simplest terms, yes, this is about ensuring things are centered, but not just the core, rather the 3D X-Ray and its high-definition imagery means Callaway can now check every single layer of their golf balls to ensure manufacturing specs are hit to within 1/1000th of an inch.
This is me. I'm not sure the line-up has an 'optimal' ball for me, little worried the Chromesoft dropping iron spin will hurt, but making more 10 foot putts will have the biggest impact and triple track is so good...10 feet and in makes the Triple Track worth it!
It's interesting reading how many people are in the X and LS versions of this ball as opposed to the standard Chrome Soft. Seems like it's around 90%.
They certainly make some pretty measurable claims regarding the new technology, per @Jman :
While altering and evolving the core, cover, and aerodynamic properties of the entire lineup is definitely a part of the story, the bigger tale to be told is what Callaway calls “Concentricity Offset”. In the simplest terms, yes, this is about ensuring things are centered, but not just the core, rather the 3D X-Ray and its high-definition imagery means Callaway can now check every single layer of their golf balls to ensure manufacturing specs are hit to within 1/1000th of an inch.
Thank you for this review. This really puts a lot of information in an understandable format. Very well done!!Chrome Soft X LS & Chrome Soft X Review
Driver
Off the tee, both of these balls are very hot. They are both on the higher compression side, but they don’t feel like rocks off the driver. They pair very nicely with the new line of drivers. The launch and spin differences between the two models was not significant for me, which is a good thing! They both come off with a relatively high launch and low spin with the LS being slightly higher launch and about 100rpm lower spin. Not sure if this is based on strike variance, but I like that they have such a similar profile off the driver.
Irons
This is where the performance characteristics really separate between the X and the LS. They are both very fast off the club like they were with the driver, and the launch was pretty similar (LS maybe a touch lower than X). The spin difference was noticeable however. The LS was consistently 300-400 rpm lower than the X, which is great for someone like me who struggles with excess iron spin. The major improvement from the original LS is how much softer the cover feels off the irons. I actually got the chance to play the LS and the X during the singles round at the Dye. Through 8 holes, I noticed that the greens were more firm than they were on the Clive and approaches were running out more than the day prior. I switched to the X for the back 9, and it was a seamless change. They feel so similar now that I can envision myself using both balls depending on where I’m playing and what the conditions are like. If I’m playing in very dry conditions or at altitude, I can definitely see myself using the regular X where extra spin is helpful to hold greens. On an every day basis in Ohio, the CSX LS will be the ball I go to because it’s typically soft enough where I don’t need that spin boost.
Wedges
If you didn’t tell me which ball you had in front of me from 50 yards, I wouldn’t have been able to tell the difference. This is also the biggest improvement for the CSX LS. There was some inconsistency with some wedge shots that seemed to come off without any spin if it wasn’t nipped just right on the partial shots. There was a few shots last season that stood out to me where I thought I hit a good pitch, and it just didn’t stop. That doesn’t seem to be a problem anymore with the new cover. The feedback is phenomenal, and also so much softer than the original. When you hit it perfect, it feels great. When you miss it by a groove, it feels much better than the original and more importantly, you don’t get the spin drop offs that run out 10 feet past where you thought they’d stop.
Putter
Off the putter, the new cover of the LS feels significantly better as well similarly to the wedges. The cover improvements are fantastic, and the Triple Track is the best alignment aid in golf.
Durability
This is the one concern I still have with the CSX LS. There was one ball in California that was noticeable scuffed up after a bunker shot that I hit well and was unusable after that. I didn’t notice any damage outside of the expected from normal play, but this is something I will be paying attention to this season.
Overall Thoughts
These golf balls are phenomenal! The quality control in the production is unmatched, and after talking in depth with Finley. I know all 3 golf balls in every sleeves of Chrome Soft will be exactly the same. They feel great off of every club, and they are very consistent. The X and LS perform exactly as advertised. If you liked the original LS, you’re going to love the upgrades. The LS will be my ball of choice for the foreseeable future.
My understanding is that’s like comparing a car to a pickup truck in that they’re both vehicles. OEM’s have been using x-rays for years, but this is a completely different beast with a different purpose. We were shown a graphic from Callaway demonstrating the impact of the precision technology on shot dispersion and it was a material difference. And that was with a robot hitting the ball!Yup and i read that...Im just not sure its something they can claim they are the only ones doing. Maybe they are. But, most other companies have been utilizing xrays for years. Haha.....maybe thats not what theyre claiming Whatever the case, Im glad to see them improving their design and engineering to produce a top caliber consistency that we can all benefit from.
This! They said straight up in the presentation that everyone is using X-Ray. It's the way that x-ray is now being used in the 3D space that only Callaway is doing and able to do.My understanding is that’s like comparing a car to a pickup truck in that they’re both vehicles. OEM’s have been using x-rays for years, but this is a completely different beast with a different purpose. We were shown a graphic from Callaway demonstrating the impact of the precision technology on shot dispersion and it was a material difference. And that was with a robot hitting the ball!
The #LunaticFringe is a small sample size.It's interesting reading how many people are in the X and LS versions of this ball as opposed to the standard Chrome Soft. Seems like it's around 90%.
The packaging is way better. Its interesting to hear them claim to have the most advanced 3d xray for golf balls today. Thats a good thing. Not sure its accurate,