Corona Virus/COVID19: Local Impact

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Can’t you also argue that the media in general these days has completely changed? In the past 11 years we have definitely gotten way more click baity and way more is on social media now.

Hell 11 years ago you still needed a college confirmed email address to get on Facebook (or that feature had just recently been removed), Twitter hadn’t really become much yet, and Instagram didn’t exist. To compare the two climates and make it political is a stretch IMO. The media climate these days due to social media has become a s*** storm.
11 years is plenty of time for people to be lazy enough to actualy search for information and then actually believe everything they read on the internet.

It is frankly sad the amount of people that take a fake meme as the gospel on facebook, twitter, etc. The bad thing about social media is that everyone now has a voice regardless of how educated they are and people only believe what they want to believe instead of actually educating themselves.
 
Not surprisingly, our national representatives are not capable of putting their "our side v your side" nonsense to rest re: stimulus in order to best support Americans during one of the most remarkable times in the Nation's history.

One second, trying to gather myself from the shock. Oh wait.
 
Not surprisingly, our national representatives are not capable of putting their "our side v your side" nonsense to rest re: stimulus in order to best support Americans during one of the most remarkable times in the Nation's history.

One second, trying to gather myself from the shock. Oh wait.

You mean they won’t put aside differences in order to accomplish something beneficial for all, because then they can’t campaign on “our party saved the economy?”

shocked..
 

One of the best movies ever... I’ve often wondered if I could blow 30 million in 30 days w/o having anything to show for it. I’d love to try starting at the electronic horse racing game at Aria...
 
Deep thoughts from Madonna's bathtub regarding the great equalizer. PSA: If you have a queasy stomach, then recommend skipping this one because the content is unsettling. For those strong enough to muscle through...this is a prime example of social media and its ills.

Do you think she always has flower petals in the bath water? Does she put them in or does someone prepare the bath for her? Topic suggestions for her next bathtub chat.

 
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Can’t you also argue that the media in general these days has completely changed? In the past 11 years we have definitely gotten way more click baity and way more is on social media now.

Hell 11 years ago you still needed a college confirmed email address to get on Facebook (or that feature had just recently been removed), Twitter hadn’t really become much yet, and Instagram didn’t exist. To compare the two climates and make it political is a stretch IMO. The media climate these days due to social media has become a s*** storm.

I haven’t made any medical statements on H1N1 or Covid-19 (I’m not qualified), but I know I made a ton of money for my company selling pandemic related supplies during H1N1 mainly because the “panic” was different and because of the difference in media coverage in ‘09 there wasn’t the same level of stress on the supply chain (there were shortages that we worked through, but the general public or other businesses weren’t panic buying the same supplies that hospitals needed).

There are some differences in our government’s response and counter measures during H1N1 and Covid-19:

We didn’t declare a National Emergency until October of ‘09 for H1N1 (1K deaths had already occurred in the US, 1st case was in April of ‘09).

We didn’t issue any travel bans to or from anywhere for H1N1 (Maybe less panic in ‘09 bc travel wasn’t impacted leaving tourism & hospitality industries undamaged).

We didn’t have quarantine orders all over
the country in ‘09, we just went about what we were doing.

We didn’t take our economy to the brink of a Depression in ‘09, there wasn’t massive losses in the Stock Market due to panic selling and counter measures that impacted unemployment & GDP in ‘09. We still went to work every day in ‘09.

No one in the Media was claiming that the White House wasn’t doing enough or too much (remember when the travel ban from China was “racist”). No one was chastising every decision the White House made in ‘09 (although over 12K Americans died from H1N1).

Maybe it’s not for political reasons, but the coverage is different, more alarmist & more Fear Porn than we have ever seen. Almost as if the Media wants a Depression, I mean it was a month ago (feels like it’s been a year), that the Media spearheaded an Impeachment of the POTUS.

Like I said, I’m not a medical expert, but I know data. With the Fed predicting a 30% Unemployment Rate & 50% drop in GDP, the real catastrophe of this event becomes clear. The last time there was a Depression in this country, 7 million Americans died from factors of the fall out (mass suicides, civil unrest, etc.). Political or not (I believe it is political, you think it’s a stretch), the media is complicit in what ever happens.
 
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Deep thoughts from Madonna's bathtub regarding the great equalizer. PSA: If you have a queasy stomach, then recommend skipping this one because the content is unsettling. For those strong enough to muscle through...this is a prime example of social media and its ills.

Do you think she always has flower petals in the bath water? Does she put them in or does someone prepare the bath for her? Topic suggestions for her next bathtub chat.


Why are the people that have the means to be best prepared to weather this storm, seem to be freaking out the most?
 
Why are the people that have the means to be best prepared to weather this storm, seem to be freaking out the most?
my buddy sent me a thought today that was also quite intriguing;

...are we comfortable with the idea of those responsible for our actions as a Nation being predominately in the 'at risk' group of individuals (read: the 50-60+ crew)? Are we sure they have the best interest of the Country in place, or themselves (per usual lmao)?
 
If anything, this thread shows the idea of how we are dealing with this issue to be very polarizing. So many act like damn the economy as long as we save lives from the virus. Others are the opposite and want to save lives, but understand how doing so at the cost of the world economy might be too high a price.

I don’t see how this social distancing will help anything IF not under a very long sustained timeframe. Every chart and picture I have seen has shown that to “flatten the curve” the time frame is greatly increased for the life of the virus.

Funny thing is those that are pro social distancing have it down that everything will be back to normal in a couple weeks. Wonder if those individuals will say the same if two weeks is turned to 4 and then turned to 8?
 
Why are the people that have the means to be best prepared to weather this storm, seem to be freaking out the most?
Because propaganda. They're falling in line like good little media puppets. And it gets them clicks and likes and followers.
 
Internet down here near Louisville. That would be an emergency situation at this point.
 
If anything, this thread shows the idea of how we are dealing with this issue to be very polarizing. So many act like damn the economy as long as we save lives from the virus. Others are the opposite and want to save lives, but understand how doing so at the cost of the world economy might be too high a price.

I don’t see how this social distancing will help anything IF not under a very long sustained timeframe. Every chart and picture I have seen has shown that to “flatten the curve” the time frame is greatly increased for the life of the virus.

Funny thing is those that are pro social distancing have it down that everything will be back to normal in a couple weeks. Wonder if those individuals will say the same if two weeks is turned to 4 and then turned to 8?
I don't think this is true. I am planning on 3 months. Once I realized what needed to be done 3 months was how long I figured it would take. It is what it is. All I am telling myself is if everyone else is going to sacrifice I am not going to be the jackass out there screwing it up. Trust me I am as rebellious as anyone and I freaking hate being told what to do, but this isn't about me. It's about my mom and dad, the old widows that go to my church, my aunts and uncles, etc. We are all luckier than most as we can still play golf with a few very minor changes to protocol.
 
Ive got to stay out of public as much as possible because our daughter is due almost anytime in the next few weeks. Our hospital is getting stricter rules every week this gets worse and I WILL NOT miss the birth of my daughter.
 
I started to cringe at the political slants in here. Please everyone, let's not get this thread closed. Keep it about how it's impacting you.

I played with a board member yesterday and they're still trying to figure out what they can do about our club. Of course the buildings will all be shut and no carts. We talked about the grounds crew being able to work safely with PPE and distancing but then, the State may mandate all courses to close. What a mistake that would be...it's one of the things that we can do safely. Mental fatigue has to be a factor to consider.

I suggested that we all donate our house minimum to the grounds crew. Give them all a raise and be sure that they have everything they need to work.
 
My wife goes back to work today, and she’s more worried than I’ve ever seen her, and she gets information from those on the front lines of this across the country, not the news.

That’s why I’m worried. If she is, then I know I should be too.
 
My wife goes back to work today, and she’s more worried than I’ve ever seen her, and she gets information from those on the front lines of this across the country, not the news.

That’s why I’m worried. If she is, then I know I should be too.

Thinking about you and her this morning. We’re still in the “calm before the storm” phase up here but the physicians in Italy talked about that happening as well. That’s where the concern comes from. Plus many places still don’t have proper protection for the providers and that’s not changing soon enough.
 
Thinking about you and her this morning. We’re still in the “calm before the storm” phase up here but the physicians in Italy talked about that happening as well. That’s where the concern comes from. Plus many places still don’t have proper protection for the providers and that’s not changing soon enough.
Yup, the lack of protection as you know is the most worrisome. Also got word today that apparently we are already critically low on ventilators. Crazy.

I know you’re off for a cycle now Amol, but take care of you and that fam of yours.
 
Best to you and yours Jman.

They're going to let us go into the school building one last time this morning and then it's going to be fully shut down as mandated by the State. It's so incredibly sad that things ended the way that they did. Please know everyone that we teachers desperately wish that we were with your children today. We appreciate you parents for all that you do.
 
Maybe someone can asnwer simple question for me.


I know this isn't a possibility because we aren't able to do this (we don't have enough masks), but shouldn't everyone in public in be wearing facemasks?


If they don't protect you from the virus, but they help cut down on asymptomatic "carriers" spreading the virus, in theory if everyone in society was forced to wear face masks in public, would it help (let's just focus on America for now) defeat this sooner rather than later?
 
Best to you and yours Jman.

They're going to let us go into the school building one last time this morning and then it's going to be fully shut down as mandated by the State. It's so incredibly sad that things ended the way that they did. Please know everyone that we teachers desperately wish that we were with your children today. We appreciate you parents for all that you do.
Yeah. This isn’t fun for teachers.

We got the threatening email from admin about not going to the buildings. Not contacting kids. Not assigning work. And not entering ANY previous grades in the grade book in order to keep our situation in guidelines with still being able to collect pay.
 
Maybe someone can asnwer simple question for me.


I know this isn't a possibility because we aren't able to do this (we don't have enough masks), but shouldn't everyone in public in be wearing facemasks?


If they don't protect you from the virus, but they help cut down on asymptomatic "carriers" spreading the virus, in theory if everyone in society was forced to wear face masks in public, would it help (let's just focus on America for now) defeat this sooner rather than later?

Maybe in theory, but really not touching things seems to be a better fix. and the issue is that there aren't enough masks for those that really need them. If there enough masks to go around I think we'd see more of a push for the public to wear them.
 
I haven’t made any medical statements on H1N1 or Covid-19 (I’m not qualified), but I know I made a ton of money for my company selling pandemic related supplies during H1N1 mainly because the “panic” was different and because of the difference in media coverage in ‘09 there wasn’t the same level of stress on the supply chain (there were shortages that we worked through, but the general public or other businesses weren’t panic buying the same supplies that hospitals needed).

There are some differences in our government’s response and counter measures during H1N1 and Covid-19:

We didn’t declare a National Emergency until October of ‘09 for H1N1 (1K deaths had already occurred in the US, 1st case was in April of ‘09).

We didn’t issue any travel bans to or from anywhere for H1N1 (Maybe less panic in ‘09 bc travel wasn’t impacted leaving tourism & hospitality industries undamaged).

We didn’t have quarantine orders all over
the country in ‘09, we just went about what we were doing.

We didn’t take our economy to the brink of a Depression in ‘09, there wasn’t massive losses in the Stock Market due to panic selling and counter measures that impacted unemployment & GDP in ‘09. We still went to work every day in ‘09.

No one in the Media was claiming that the White House wasn’t doing enough or too much (remember when the travel ban from China was “racist”). No one was chastising every decision the White House made in ‘09 (although over 12K Americans died from H1N1).

Maybe it’s not for political reasons, but the coverage is different, more alarmist & more Fear Porn than we have ever seen. Almost as if the Media wants a Depression, I mean it was a month ago (feels like it’s been a year), that the Media spearheaded an Impeachment of the POTUS.

Like I said, I’m not a medical expert, but I know data. With the Fed predicting a 30% Unemployment Rate & 50% drop in GDP, the real catastrophe of this event becomes clear. The last time there was a Depression in this country, 7 million Americans died from factors of the fall out (mass suicides, civil unrest, etc.). Political or not (I believe it is political, you think it’s a stretch), the media is complicit in what ever happens.

The H1N1 pandemic was a very different scenario than we have now. One, there’s a methodology for coming up with a flu vaccine once you‘ve isolated the virus - you just need to buy time.

You can blame the media all you want, but does it not worry you that scientists, who have infectious for decades, are some of the people ringing the bell for this? Or are you just going to trust that you “know data”, whatever that means. If I recall it was a few days back where you said South Korea was our most likely outcome...
 
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