MLB 2012 season (Spoilers)

Damaikis · Dec 16, 2012

dhill37 said:
Gotta hurt to be a Mets fan.
On the other hand the Jays have racked up this offseason. Wonder how the chemistry will be in 2013?

I bet the Jays are really good next year. And this trade doesn't bother me much. We suck anyways, so let's plan for the future rather than keep a 38 year old pitcher.

StanTheCaddy · Dec 16, 2012

AL East is going to be STACKED next year. It's always a tough division but with the moves the Jays are making it's going to be absolutely brutal. Not a weak team in the division.

TRyan · Dec 16, 2012

StanTheCaddy said:
AL East is going to be STACKED next year. It's always a tough division but with the moves the Jays are making it's going to be absolutely brutal. Not a weak team in the division.

I Tend to agree minus the orioles. I think they come back to earth.. They completely defied all metrics in winning as many games as they did

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DevRickus · Dec 22, 2012

Former player Ryan Freel, 36, found dead of an apparent suicide. What a shame.

JeffReedMO · Dec 22, 2012

DevRickus said:
Former player Ryan Freel, 36, found dead of an apparent suicide. What a shame.

Damn, that sucks. He had a few good years for the Reds.

ddec · Dec 22, 2012

DevRickus said:
Former player Ryan Freel, 36, found dead of an apparent suicide. What a shame.

Damn that's sad to hear. He had a season where it seemed like he was on Web gems every night. Believe it was with the Reds, one of those years Jr was injured

DevRickus · Dec 22, 2012

Here is the story:
http://deadsp.in/2ssGdhu

TRyan · Jan 9, 2013

Everything I am reading says no one is going into the hall of fame this year. Its a shame, but steroids ruin reputations

IceyShanks · Jan 9, 2013

DevRickus said:
Here is the story:
http://deadsp.in/2ssGdhu

Very very sad.

DevRickus · Jan 9, 2013

TexasHacker34 said:
Everything I am reading says no one is going into the hall of fame this year. Its a shame, but steroids ruin reputations

Biggio got the highest percentage at 68.2% just ahead of Jack Morris at 67.7%. I dont think Biggio is a hall of famer to be honest.

[h=4]2013 Hall of Fame voting[/h]

For the first time since 1996, no players were elected to the Hall of Fame by baseball writers. A player needs at least 75 percent of the vote to gain election.

Player	Votes	Pct
Craig Biggio	388	68.2
Jack Morris	385	67.7
Jeff Bagwell	339	59.6
Mike Piazza	329	57.8
Tim Raines	297	52.2
Lee Smith	272	47.8
Curt Schilling	221	38.8
Roger Clemens	214	37.6
Barry Bonds	206	36.2
Edgar Martinez	204	35.9
Alan Trammell	191	33.6
Larry Walker	123	21.6
Fred McGriff	118	20.7
Dale Murphy	106	18.6
Mark McGwire	96	16.9
Don Mattingly	75	13.2
Sammy Sosa	71	12.5
Rafael Palmeiro	50	8.8

TRyan · Jan 9, 2013

And we have it.. Zero guys elected. First time since 1996.

Damaikis · Jan 9, 2013

I can't believe nobody for elected to the HOF. Crazy.

TRyan · Jan 9, 2013

Damaikis said:
I can't believe nobody for elected to the HOF. Crazy.

Steroids dude

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Smallville · Jan 9, 2013

TexasHacker34 said:
Everything I am reading says no one is going into the hall of fame this year. Its a shame, but steroids ruin reputations

DevRickus said:
Biggio got the highest percentage at 68.2% just ahead of Jack Morris at 67.7%. I dont think Biggio is a hall of famer to be honest.

For the first time since 1996, no players were elected to the Hall of Fame by baseball writers. A player needs at least 75 percent of the vote to gain election.

TexasHacker34 said:
And we have it.. Zero guys elected. First time since 1996.

Damaikis said:
I can't believe nobody for elected to the HOF. Crazy.

At least they don't do what golf does and let in anyone who gets 50% if no one got enough votes.

ddec · Jan 9, 2013

Good thing it's not like the football HOF or there would be 4 new guys going in.

Biggio will get in, just not this year. Bagwell's number increased this year, I wouldn't be shocked to see him get in either.

TRyan · Jan 9, 2013

Smallville said:
At least they don't do what golf does and let in anyone who gets 50% if no one got enough votes.

There are a couple on that list I think will eventually get in; I would think Piazza will get in during the next few years for sure.

IceyShanks · Jan 9, 2013

I'd think Mike Piazza should get in!

mikedean441 · Jan 9, 2013

IceyShanks said:
I'd think Mike Piazza should get in!

Whispers of steroid usage did him in according to ESPN

mikedean441 · Jan 9, 2013

DevRickus said:
Biggio got the highest percentage at 68.2% just ahead of Jack Morris at 67.7%. I dont think Biggio is a hall of famer to be honest.

2013 Hall of Fame voting

For the first time since 1996, no players were elected to the Hall of Fame by baseball writers. A player needs at least 75 percent of the vote to gain election.

Player Votes Pct
Craig Biggio 388 68.2
Jack Morris 385 67.7
Jeff Bagwell 339 59.6
Mike Piazza 329 57.8
Tim Raines 297 52.2
Lee Smith 272 47.8
Curt Schilling 221 38.8
Roger Clemens 214 37.6
Barry Bonds 206 36.2
Edgar Martinez 204 35.9
Alan Trammell 191 33.6
Larry Walker 123 21.6
Fred McGriff 118 20.7
Dale Murphy 106 18.6
Mark McGwire 96 16.9
Don Mattingly 75 13.2
Sammy Sosa 71 12.5
Rafael Palmeiro 50 8.8

According to Bleacherreport Biggio is 6th Best 2B of All time, hard to keep that out of the Hall if you believe it

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/326805-top-ten-second-basemen-of-all-time

Wake · Jan 9, 2013

Biggio will get in for sure, pretty surprising he didn't get in this year with 3000 hits.

TRyan · Jan 9, 2013

IceyShanks said:
I'd think Mike Piazza should get in!

mikedean441 said:
Whispers of steroid usage did him in according to ESPN

mikedean441 said:
According to Bleacherreport Biggio is 6th Best 2B of All time, hard to keep that out of the Hall if you believe it

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/326805-top-ten-second-basemen-of-all-time

Both will get in, although I don't agree with most of what bleacher report releases.

Piazza was a power hitter in the steroid era, but this was also his first year on the ballot. Give him a couple years. Most don't get in on their first try

DevRickus · Jan 9, 2013

Some woman that writes for a paper in LA voted for Bernie Williams, Don Mattingly, Kenny Lofton, Craig Biggio, and SEAN GREEN!! She should have her ballet removed IMMEDIATELY.

TRyan · Jan 9, 2013

Wake said:
Biggio will get in for sure, pretty surprising he didn't get in this year with 3000 hits.

Look at the list of 1st ballot hall of famers. He doesn't belong on this list IMO. He was a great player, and a hall of famer, but not on the same level as these guys

[SIZE=-1]Ty Cobb[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1936[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Walter Johnson[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1936[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Christy Mathewson[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1936[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Babe Ruth[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1936[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Honus Wagner[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1936[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Bob Feller[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1962[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Jackie Robinson[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1962[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Ted Williams[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1966[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Stan Musial[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1969[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Sandy Koufax[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1972[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Warren Spahn[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1973[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Mickey Mantle[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1974[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Ernie Banks[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1977[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Willie Mays[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1979[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Al Kaline[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1980[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Bob Gibson[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1981[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Hank Aaron[/SIZE][SUP] (bio)[/SUP]	[SIZE=-1]1982[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Frank Robinson[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1982[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Brooks Robinson[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1983[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Lou Brock[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1985[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Willie McCovey[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1986[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Willie Stargell[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1988[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Johnny Bench[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1989[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Carl Yastrzemski[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1989[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Joe Morgan[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1990[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Jim Palmer[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1990[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Rod Carew[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1991[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Tom Seaver[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1992[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Reggie Jackson[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1993[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Steve Carlton[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1994[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Mike Schmidt[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1995[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]George Brett[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1999[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Nolan Ryan[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1999[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Robin Yount[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]1999[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Kirby Puckett[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]2001[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Dave Winfield[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]2001[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Ozzie Smith[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]2002[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Eddie Murray[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]2003[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Dennis Eckersley[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]2004[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Paul Molitor[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]2004[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Wade Boggs[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]2005[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Tony Gwynn[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]2007[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Cal Ripken, Jr.[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]2007[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Rickey Henderson[/SIZE]	[SIZE=-1]2009[/SIZE]

Wake · Jan 9, 2013

TexasHacker34 said:
Look at the list of 1st ballot hall of famers. He doesn't belong on this list IMO. He was a great player, and a hall of famer, but not on the same level as these guys

[SIZE=-1]Ty Cobb[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]1936[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Walter Johnson[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]1936[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Christy Mathewson[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]1936[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Babe Ruth[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]1936[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Honus Wagner[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]1936[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Bob Feller[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1962[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Jackie Robinson[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1962[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Ted Williams[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1966[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Stan Musial[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1969[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Sandy Koufax[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1972[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Warren Spahn[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1973[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Mickey Mantle[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1974[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Ernie Banks[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1977[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Willie Mays[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1979[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Al Kaline[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1980[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Bob Gibson[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1981[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Hank Aaron[/SIZE][SUP] (bio)[/SUP]
[SIZE=-1]1982[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Frank Robinson[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1982[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Brooks Robinson[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1983[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Lou Brock[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1985[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Willie McCovey[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1986[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Willie Stargell[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1988[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Johnny Bench[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1989[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Carl Yastrzemski[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1989[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Joe Morgan[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1990[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Jim Palmer[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1990[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Rod Carew[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1991[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Tom Seaver[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1992[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Reggie Jackson[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1993[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Steve Carlton[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1994[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Mike Schmidt[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1995[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]George Brett[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1999[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Nolan Ryan[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1999[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Robin Yount[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1999[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Kirby Puckett[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2001[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Dave Winfield[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2001[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Ozzie Smith[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2002[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Eddie Murray[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2003[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Dennis Eckersley[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2004[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Paul Molitor[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2004[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Wade Boggs[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2005[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Tony Gwynn[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2007[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Cal Ripken, Jr.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2007[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Rickey Henderson[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2009[/SIZE]

I think the talk of "first ballot" hall of famers is a bit silly. If they are good enough to get in after 3 years, why are they not good enough to get in immediately?

TRyan · Jan 9, 2013

Wake said:
I think the talk of "first ballot" hall of famers is a bit silly. If they are good enough to get in after 3 years, why are they not good enough to get in immediately?

Its just how the writers operate man. First ballot is like a seperate award to the hall of fame itself. I don't neccesarily agree, but the BBWA sure seems to

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