I was using the HZRDUS Black - some of the better strikes stayed down in the 24-2600 range but still with such a low spin shaft liked to still stay up around that 3000 number.I took a few swings with a Qi10 Max driver during lunch. The forgiveness is absolutely amazing. The problem is that it was spinning in the 3300 to 3500 range for me, with the Tensei Blue shaft. I don’t think that I could get the spin down into a range that would give me the distance I need from a driver, but it really was impressive. It also looked gigantic behind the ball.