Every sport has heroes and villains and the last two decades have shown that winning cures all. He has been on tour just short of 10 years and has built a pretty rock solid resume. Patrick Reed is good for golf.
Reed has 9 PGA Tour Victories and 3 wins on the Euro Tour. He is a major winner and has had a top 10 in every major and top 5 in 3 of the 4.
He is a good interview and says what’s on his mind.
He has had some brushes with the rules in the past, although I don’t believe yesterday was one of them.
So prove me wrong, Patrick Reed is good for golf.
and less Ferraris
Justine wouldn’t let him
but no, i can’t prove you wrong. he is golf’s villain. the yang. we just need a yin. a light for his dark. who will be that?
The greatest of all time comes to mind with his Masters drop (not the other cheating) and very few would make the case that he is bad for the game.
How? If more eyeballs are paying attention and as has been mentioned, he isn’t the first to break the rules including the greatest of this generation.
You said change your mind! I am just trying to follow the instructions in the first post since that is not done around here quite often! ?
Hahaha. Touché.
Except don’t his countrymen love him?
He’s a smelly turd (if true).
If that’s not than he can be as big of a prick as he wants, doesn’t impact me one way or another. But if what’s supposedly true is, nope.
Can’t get past that.
It has basically been all about Reed.
Neither was Tiger Woods and he was certainly good for golf. It hasn’t suffered from him either ?
so many rules controversies ago…
Well, If there are juniors that look up to Reed they might start incorporating his antics into their own play. To me that’s not good for the game. Same as juniors take after tour pro slow play, not good either.
still a punk though.
But, he’s still a cheater and a dbag. But people will watch the villain every time.
I get all of that. But we saw the greatest of a generation do the same and it never once impacted golf. In fact the game grew to new heights. He is considered a hero.
So while I’m not comparing them, I’m still trying to figure out how he is bad for the game? I understand we are in a social media world now where everything is magnified vs when Tiger took his illegal drop, but if we are basing it on the role model ideal, I’m not sure I follow.
But you’ll never actually know if those things are true, so you don’t have anything to get past, right?
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Tiger Woods discretions were never on course, and cheating in the game is an issue with younger players, and Reed is horrible for that.
THe TW situation is different, but in addition Tiger Woods owned his infidelity and eventually his resurgence has been marketed as a redemption (how scripted or not). He suffered a blow to his person life integrity and while he was out of the spotlight, there was a decline in viewership and participation in the game, in the past few years since the incident and fall from grace has been used to rebrand him, and viewership has increased as such, and participation was on a gradual upswing until Corona….
I’m not speaking of his infidelity. But to think those things don’t impact youth and role model goals is a unique thought.
I was speaking to Tiger Woods breaking the rules at the Masters.
but bad for golf, nope
And he plays better when he knows people hate him. He’s embraced it.
I guess when you put it that way…
I’m just saying, if that were the case, not cool.
I can forgive him being a Richard. That’s past Richard level.
I think back on all my teammates over the years and none of them ever accused me of something like this. I’ll acknowledge that there wasn’t much to gain from it like here where he may pay some “shut up” money (I’m again just stating) and it could go away.
I don’t like him. More than one teammate chirping is cause for alarm and I can read folks half decent. He pissed them off at some point in his past. Whether what is claimed or other. He pissed them off. None of my teammates will say that outside of me sucking for a weekend of golf.
He isn’t good enough to be a super villain ala Lebron or Brady, but he is just good enough to root against and smile when he has a bad tournament.
If Tiger would be known for cheating first (on the course…) and his playing second it would be different but he wasn’t. P Reed is first, second, and third known for his cheating and controversies. Makes for great content, I agree 100% but not necessarily the person you want to be an ambassador for the game. Tiger also inspired people to pick up the game, not sure Reed is in that category.
Was t following but what character defect did he commit now?
That being said, He’s not good for golf. He’s showing that he will cheat or at the very least being very liberal with the rules to get an outcome in his favor. Who knows what he’s done when no one was watching or without cameras. When a respectable person like Kostis says he’s seen on at least 4 occasions Reed cheating that’s all I need to know.
No one can say what’s on his mind in these situations, but he has proven to at least be questioned each time. Golf needs a villain, but it needs an honest villain not someone who cheats at what seems like every chance he gets.
i don’t remember Jack having a questionable masters drop.
If I was him I would go full iron sheik mode on all the Euro players and every single day I would wear red white and blue. Thursday: Blue hat, white Shirt, red pants. Friday: red hat, white shirt, blue pants. Saturday red hat, blue shirt, white pants. Sunday: white hat, red shirt, blue pants. just lean into it and maybe you get clothing sponsor.
But never ever wear a black hat, that would be leaning into the bad guy deal too much.
I don’t know if the blatant cheating is necessarily good. But having a unifying heel is.