Social media, especially twitter, is always a fun time after events like this. Happens with every teams fans, but this is one where the act itself can't be defended. Even he knows that.Check social media...Browns fans
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Social media, especially twitter, is always a fun time after events like this. Happens with every teams fans, but this is one where the act itself can't be defended. Even he knows that.Check social media...Browns fans
I'm genuinely shocked there are only a couple of samples. Could have sworn there were more.I remember that one.
Very different league 6-7 years ago.
Social media, especially twitter, is always a fun time after events like this. Happens with every teams fans, but this is one where the act itself can't be defended. Even he knows that.
Agreed. I'll take a minority stance here too. While I think Rudolph has handled this extremely poorly, I dont think he was kicking him in the franks and beans. I think he was a fish out of water after getting drilled late and was flailing. Now running back out there, and then post events, brutal, but I think this is pretty much on Garrett.
Is this perspective being taking to defend Garrett's actions, or to consider supplemental discipline for Rudolph?I agree with this completely. I do think Rudolph came across as a punk afterwards and was foolish for rushing Garrett, but I was surprised at all the, "well look at what Rudolph did..." It doesn't matter. It really doesn't. You just can't bash a guy over his exposed head with a helmet--no matter what.
Is this perspective being taking to defend Garrett's actions, or to consider supplemental discipline for Rudolph?
Is this perspective being taking to defend Garrett's actions, or to consider supplemental discipline for Rudolph?
I think, especially for those commenting in here, is it's that last part pretty much. Not much to add to what Garrett did. he did it, and there's no denying that and not much to discuss there. Should be out for the year at least.Not my perspective, so I don't know, but it certainly could be the latter. I would be fine with Rudolph being disciplined, even suspended, as I mentioned last night. I was just surprised with how much conversation focused on Rudolph's actions and not what was one of the most egregious things I've ever seen on a field/court. Maybe that was because there wasn't a lot to add to "well, Garrett is done for a long time."
Is this perspective being taking to defend Garrett's actions, or to consider supplemental discipline for Rudolph?
Yeah, the Garrett decision is pretty cut and dry. Makes sense that most of the conversation on Rudolph is how many boxes you can tick to validate a suspension for him as well.Not my perspective, so I don't know, but it certainly could be the latter. I would be fine with Rudolph being disciplined, even suspended, as I mentioned last night. I was just surprised with how much conversation focused on Rudolph's actions and not what was one of the most egregious things I've ever seen on a field/court. Maybe that was because there wasn't a lot to add to "well, Garrett is done for a long time."
Kicking Garrett in the balls and trying to take his helmet of should check a lot of them.Yeah, the Garrett decision is pretty cut and dry. Makes sense that most of the conversation on Rudolph is how many boxes you can tick to validate a suspension for him as well.
That's what is interesting to me. People can see why Pouncey reacted the way he did because of what Garrett did, but aren't seeing why Garrett reacted the way he did because of what Rudolph did. Kind of needs to be both there, doesn't it?I've seen plenty of both on twitter today, though the former seems to have come mostly from Browns fans.
I think Garrett's most likely done for the year but there's no real consistency with fines/suspensions so who knows. Pouncey will be interesting. I can see why he'd lose his head seeing what Garrett did, but going for a guy on the ground like that doesn't look good at all.
I think, especially for those commenting in here, is it's that last part pretty much. Not much to add to what Garrett did. he did it, and there's no denying that and not much to discuss there. Should be out for the year at least.
As a guy who played O-line for a long time and coached it longer, Pouncey did what he should have, and had someone NOT gone after Garrett and I was the coach, heads would have rolled. You always defend your QB, always, regardless of the repercussions. And he will get suspended, he threw hands.I've seen plenty of both on twitter today, though the former seems to have come mostly from Browns fans.
I think Garrett's most likely done for the year but there's no real consistency with fines/suspensions so who knows. Pouncey will be interesting. I can see why he'd lose his head seeing what Garrett did, but going for a guy on the ground like that doesn't look good at all.
I'm not sure that trying to rip a players helmet off and spiking them in the nerds is the path most NFL quarterbacks would have gone... Not to mention running after the lunatic while helmet-less after said spiking.IMO this whole incident started with a late hit/driving the QB to the ground after the ball was gone and because of that I won't be surprised if Rudolph doesn't get any suspension. In the first frame, the receiver is already catching the ball and Garrett continues the play well after the receiver has turned upfield. #53 wisely followed the rules and released Rudolph after the ball was gone. Garrett cleary did not. Rudolph reacted to the late hit like a lot of other NFL QB's would have.
If Garrett did this to Rodgers he would have been easily flagged.
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I'm really interested in your perspective on DeCastro. Do you like how he handled it or from this perspective, should he have gone after Garrett?As a guy who played O-line for a long time and coached it longer, Pouncey did what he should have, and had someone NOT gone after Garrett and I was the coach, heads would have rolled. You always defend your QB, always, regardless of the repercussions. And he will get suspended, he threw hands.
That's what is interesting to me. People can see why Pouncey reacted the way he did because of what Garrett did, but aren't seeing why Garrett reacted the way he did because of what Rudolph did. Kind of needs to be both there, doesn't it?
I'm not sure that trying to rip a players helmet off and spiking them in the nerds is the path most NFL quarterbacks would have gone... Not to mention running after the lunatic while helmet-less after said spiking.
Absolutely agreed that the excessive take down was the beginning of the altercation, but there are three separate samples of where Rudolph escalated it.
I'm not sure that trying to rip a players helmet off and spiking them in the nerds is the path most NFL quarterbacks would have gone... Not to mention running after the lunatic while helmet-less after said spiking.
Absolutely agreed that the excessive take down was the beginning of the altercation, but there are three separate samples of where Rudolph escalated it.
Antonio Smith's might be the closest to this sample. Gets provoked big time, rips the helmet off, takes a big swing. I think I read he got two preseason games and one regular season game for this;