I'm with you there. Not a fan of that shaft and think the KBS are miles better. Looking forward to hearing what you think about the R11s.I hate that shaft and feel that's what kept me from liking the CB's more. the stock KBS Tour 90's in these though? Oh I bet they're nice....going to GG this weekend to do some hitting of their new arrivals since the weather is iffy so I'll hit these as well.