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What’s The HR Record in Baseball?

JB said:
So it went from EVERY player to high level players?
Im so confused.

While I think more than got caught were a part of it, I think its pretty odd to jump to every player.
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I'm not jumping on players. I'm not chastising. I'm disregarding drug use. I don't think it matters who was or was not on drugs because I think most of them were. I think a player's drug use, alleged or otherwise, should not be held against them.
 
Paddy1Putt said:
If Ohtani got here a little earlier he would have blow by Bonds. What he is doing is insanity, pitching and hitting..... 1000 OPS with 200 Ks (pitching) 32.7 WAR in 6 season is insanity.
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Let’s not forget Bonds had a couple years where his OBP was higher than Ohtani’s career SLG. 22.3 WAR in those 2 seasons.

Baseball stats are the best.
 
The question that started the thread wasn’t “what do you subjectively think should be the HR record,” nor was it “What is the non performance enhancing drug HR record?”. It was “What’s the HR record in baseball?” That answer is simple and not debatable, 73, Barry Bonds, 2001.
 
RealPretendPsychic said:
Let’s not forget Bonds had a couple years where his OBP was higher than Ohtani’s career SLG. 22.3 WAR in those 2 seasons.

Baseball stats are the best.
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My favorirte Bonds stat: In 2004, he received 120 intentional walks.
 
Tenputt said:
The question that started the thread wasn’t “what do you subjectively think should be the HR record,” nor was it “What is the non performance enhancing drug HR record?”. It was “What’s the HR record in baseball?” That answer is simple and not debatable, 73, Barry Bonds, 2001.
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How is it not debatable if we’ve also had people answer:
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Bernoulli said:
My favorirte Bonds stat: In 2004, he received 120 intentional walks.
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I need to look, but didn't he have more IW than Ks that year?
 
blugold said:
I need to look, but didn't he have more IW than Ks that year?
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Guy’s only 100+ K season was 102 his rookie year :oops: and he only exceeded 90 three other years.
 
Paddy1Putt said:
If Ohtani got here a little earlier he would have blow by Bonds. What he is doing is insanity, pitching and hitting..... 1000 OPS with 200 Ks (pitching) 32.7 WAR in 6 season is insanity.
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oh i agree but he still has to do it for like 10 more years.

Bonds numbers in case anyone forgot how great he was:

GAMES AT BAT'S RUNS HITS RBI'S BB SO HR'S SB
Career2,9869,8472,2272,9351,9962,5581,539762514


he has 2500 less at bat's then hank aaron
 
blugold said:
There are no hand-eye coordination steroids.
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True,
Yet a famous pitcher once told me you need less hand eye coordination if you are stronger and faster than before.
 
JB said:
True,
Yet a famous pitcher once told me you need less hand eye coordination if you are stronger and faster than before.
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Yessir. Strength matters.
 
blugold said:
I need to look, but didn't he have more IW than Ks that year?
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2004 - 135 hits, 232 walks (120 intentional) and 41 ks in 617 plate appearances. Only 45 HRs. But it was his age 40 season.
 
Bernoulli said:
My favorirte Bonds stat: In 2004, he received 120 intentional walks.
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As much as I don’t like him, it is beyond question that during those peak years, he was absolutely frightening to any pitcher facing him.
 
JB said:
True,
Yet a famous pitcher once told me you need less hand eye coordination if you are stronger and faster than before.
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This seems relatable to us golfers. Those with higher swing speeds have lots of advantages.
 
My opinion....Bonds. See below table of stats for my reasons.

HRABBBHR %BB%IBBIBB/BB
Bonds7629,8472,558
7.7%​
20.6%​
688
26.9%​
Aaron75512,3641,402
6.1%​
10.2%​
293
20.9%​
Ruth7148,3992,062
8.5%​
19.7%​
197
9.6%​
McGuire5836,1871,317
9.4%​
17.6%​
150
11.4%​
Pujols70311,4211,373
6.2%​
10.7%​
316
23.0%​
Rodriguez69610,5661,338
6.6%​
11.2%​
97
7.2%​
Mays66010,8811,464
6.1%​
11.9%​
214
14.6%​
Griffey Jr.6309,8011,312
6.4%​
11.8%​
246
18.8%​
Thome6128,4221,747
7.3%​
17.2%​
172
9.8%​
Sosa6098,813929
6.9%​
9.5%​
154
16.6%​
 
wubears71 said:
70. Bonds doesn’t count. McGwire does because I saw a lot of those in person and the ‘98 home run race saved baseball.
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Big Mac's count but Barry's dont? I don't disagree PEDs should wipe things away but if one doesn't count, they both shouldn't count.
 
JB said:
True,
Yet a famous pitcher once told me you need less hand eye coordination if you are stronger and faster than before.
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So true! A miss-hit with 5-10 mph more batspeed goes from warning track power to 10 rows up in the stands.

I wish we could have seen what Barry did if they actually putched to him that season.
 
MattyD-MPLS said:
Big Mac's count but Barry's dont? I don't disagree PEDs should wipe things away but if one doesn't count, they both shouldn't count.
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now yes. Just to piss people off.
I didnt realize this was a debate.
 
cmon man said:
My opinion....Bonds. See below table of stats for my reasons.

HRABBBHR %BB%IBBIBB/BB
Bonds7629,8472,558
7.7%​
20.6%​
688
26.9%​
Aaron75512,3641,402
6.1%​
10.2%​
293
20.9%​
Ruth7148,3992,062
8.5%​
19.7%​
197
9.6%​
McGuire5836,1871,317
9.4%​
17.6%​
150
11.4%​
Pujols70311,4211,373
6.2%​
10.7%​
316
23.0%​
Rodriguez69610,5661,338
6.6%​
11.2%​
97
7.2%​
Mays66010,8811,464
6.1%​
11.9%​
214
14.6%​
Griffey Jr.6309,8011,312
6.4%​
11.8%​
246
18.8%​
Thome6128,4221,747
7.3%​
17.2%​
172
9.8%​
Sosa6098,813929
6.9%​
9.5%​
154
16.6%​
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Big Mac’s career HR rate being nearly 10% is quite impressive
 
BuckNasty said:
Big Mac’s career HR rate being nearly 10% is quite impressive
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Why were his at bats so much lower? Was his career quite a bit shorter?
 
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