When choosing a putter, naturally we typically find a shape that we like the look of and something that feels right. What if you learned that your choice might be hampering your ability to make more putts?
Could the mind and the affinity for a certain shape or style overcome this? It’s a genuine question we wanted to explore as every golfer gravitates to a certain putter.
In the THP Tech Studio, we have Chris Koske from Edel Golf and a laser setup with two cameras. The test was to find out where we aim naturally and how the putter plays such a large roll in that aspect.
We explore both putter head style as well as alignment line(s) and see what changes and why. Is your putter keeping you from the ability to make more putts? Watch the video below and find out.
After watching that, how well do you think your putter fits your game? Is your putter keeping you from making more putts? While these changes might sound drastic, what we saw above going through it for the first time was rather eye opening.
Could a putter fitting benefit you? We recently explored what it was like to go through a full fitting of the flat stick at a place like Club Champion. If you missed that, check it out here.
Thanks to Edel Golf for coming to the THP Tech Studio and walking us through this exercise. For more information on any of the putters you saw in this line, check out their website here.
This video just want to #1 on my must watch list. SUPER interested in this! Watching after work today…
Will be watching this after I knock off tonight. Probably several times..
Very interesting video. There is a lot more science in putting alignment than I thought. Great job [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] !
Seems like this would open up a lot of questions – did you choose a putter style based on stroke type or alignment? Does your alignment affect or influence your stroke type? Would you change your stroke type change if you were ? confident your alignment was correct?
Looks like someone should get a putter fitting.
Personally I am not a guy who worries about how a putter looks as long as I can perform with it. I bought one a couple years ago that was a very weird looking putter to most people but I just made more putts with it because it suited me better.
I had a bunch of guys tell me they wouldn’t play it because you couldn’t pick up a ball off the green with it. I always got funny looks when I told them that I didn’t care about that if I only had to use it 18 times and reach in the hole anyway wasn’t that better then over 30 times and using it to pick up gimmies? Now obviously I never made just 18 it’s in the round but it does get the point across.
I absolutely loved this, I knew it was coming and that I would, but I really did.
Aim tendencies and biases amaze me, and it’s fun to see how thorough Edel is being in fitting those.
Great video with cool info. How they can change a golfers sim perspective. Would be a super fitting experience. I was a little distracted by the shoe laces LOL.
I will watch this after dog walk and breakfast. Putting is my golf weakness and improving that aspect of the game is priority #1.
I’m so pumped to watch this. I miss right A LOT, from as close as 3 feet. My eyes tell me my putter is aligned with the hole but reality is that it’s just to the right, which equates to a missed putt.
Good video. Now I want to see the same thing with a laser pointer and something shiny on my putter.
Great video, informative, helpful.
I’ll be trying something like this at home with a laser pointer, to see that I might learn if anything.
Thanks!
Very cool! my problem is corrections that occur in the stroke.
“Explain to me what just happened”
Love it! Great video, guys. It’s always amazing how much influence those little things have before we’ve even start in motion. Cool stuff going on with Edel fittings. Really enjoyed that.
very cool.. Interesting what slight changes in the alignment aid can accomplish.
Awesome video! Would love to get on a laser to see what my aim tendencies are. From my point of view, I feel like I am pretty straight with a top line aid and a little right with a flange line aid. Would be cool to see how far off base I actually am. Haha.
I will watch with sound tonight. This should be interesting.
This was very interesting to see. It’s things like this that have me thinking about the benefits of a putter fitting.
hmm, I woulda called mega bs if someone tried to sell me that story without seeing the video.
now my mind is kinda spinning.
Great starter video for the entire Edel process.
I’ve had a few Edel fittings as they changed models. Around 2015, at a fitting, discovered that compact mallets with very little offset, and without sightlines but just site dot, worked well for me. That’s why I have an Edel E-1 and Savage Too in the bag with a SeeMore mFGP2, which I need to send to SeeMore to take out the white lines, shorten slightly and regrip:)
In addition to the head shape and sight lines, the process once and probably still includes most or all of the following – offset, length, head weight, distance control, shaft, grip, counterweighting.
Heck, even if you did not want to purchase an Edel, I would pay money for an EDEL fitting. Go to YouTube and search David Edel and/or Edel Fitting.
An Edel Fitting takes a lot of variables out of your next purchase. I rolled a few of the new putter heads and the milling is tremendous off the face as to feel – not too soft or firm – just right. I was impressed. Better feel than the Betts I have.
Very interesting. The effect of alignment marks on the putters is not something that was mentioned in my putter fitting at Club Champion.
[USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER], do you use the alignment aid on the ball or no? I wonder whether that would change things?
[QUOTE=”Parrot, post: 9896009, member: 48815″]
Very interesting. The effect of alignment marks on the putters is not something that was mentioned in my putter fitting at Club Champion.
[USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER], do you use the alignment aid on the ball or no? I wonder whether that would change things?
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I refuse. Tried it numerous times, saw how regularly i had it wrong, and then argued it more than it helped.
Personally, I use something on the green about a foot or two from the ball as my final alignment.
I went through an Edel putter fitting back in 2014 and I used that putter for about 5 years. The whole process was very eye opening and I loved that putter for a long time. Even though I’ve switched putters now I won’t ever get rid of my Edel putter.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 9896011, member: 2320″]
I refuse. Tried it numerous times, saw how regularly i had it wrong, and then argued it more than it helped.
Personally, I use something on the green about a foot or two from the ball as my final alignment.
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I always thought it helped me. But, I didn’t use the alignment aid most of the time in my putter fitting and made plenty of putts. I felt completely comfortable. At the end, I hit a few using the alignment aid to see whether it helped my alignment. It helped some but at that point looked weird. Given how bad my right knee is, I may punt it going forward.
What the alignment aid on the top edge or flange can do is fascinating. Thanks, Dan, that was an awesome piece of content.
[QUOTE=”Parrot, post: 9896031, member: 48815″]
I always thought it helped me. But, I didn’t use the alignment aid most of the time in my putter fitting and made plenty of putts. I felt completely comfortable. At the end, I hit a few using the alignment aid to see whether it helped my alignment. It helped some but at that point looked weird. Given how bad my right knee is, I may punt it going forward.
What the alignment aid on the top edge or flange can do is fascinating. Thanks, Dan, that was an awesome piece of content.
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I think my favorite part of the whole video was at the end when he tricked me into trying to cheat the system. Absolutely got me hahahaha
It’s so hard to keep an open mind when you head the story and try to understand it – Going in with an open mind and a fresh perspective into a fitting is absolutely critical.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 9896044, member: 2320″]
I think my favorite part of the whole video was at the end when he tricked me into trying to cheat the system. Absolutely got me hahahaha
It’s so hard to keep an open mind when you head the story and try to understand it – Going in with an open mind and a fresh perspective into a fitting is absolutely critical.
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I would have loved to hear him discuss what a mark or dot(s) on the top line and mark(s) on the flange does for my lying eyes. I assume it’s reinforcement of one or the other.
I never knew those marks worked that way. Mnd blown.
[QUOTE=”Parrot, post: 9896048, member: 48815″]
I would have loved to hear him discuss what a mark or dot(s) on the top line and mark(s) on the flange does for my lying eyes. I assume it’s reinforcement of one or the other.
I never knew those marks worked that way. Mnd blown.
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Well here’s what was so curious for me…. I regularly game a product that aims one way, with an alignment that encourages an aim to another way – It’s an unintentional balancing act.
Makes me ponder so aggressively haha
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 9896058, member: 2320″]
Well here’s what was so curious for me…. I regularly game a product that aims one way, with an alignment that encourages an aim to another way – It’s an unintentional balancing act.
Makes me ponder so aggressively haha
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Dan, you’re a great golfer (you’re handicap speaks on that so just go with it) and choose a top line blade. Do you think your body/eye sight has naturally adjusted/compensated to what you like in how you putt? The video clearly shows you “should” be playing a different sight alignment than what you are and like. If you were to make the change, do you think it would be an easy change or would you want to switch back?
BTW, great video. It really makes me want to get a putter fitting now as that is one of the worst parts of my game.
[QUOTE=”billyh, post: 9896093, member: 45962″]
Dan, you’re a great golfer (you’re handicap speaks on that so just go with it) and choose a top line blade. Do you think your body/eye sight has naturally adjusted/compensated to what you like in how you putt? The video clearly shows you “should” be playing a different sight alignment than what you are and like. If you were to make the change, do you think it would be an easy change or would you want to switch back?
BTW, great video. It really makes me want to get a putter fitting now as that is one of the worst parts of my game.
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I’m a bit unsure, honestly. As you see in the video, with a blade shape (that aims a touch left) and my preferred setup of a sight dot or line (which helps aim right) you’ll see at about 6:25 in the video that top line balances me back to on line perfectly.
The question for me is more about “how long have I been using the right or wrong setup to know that’s my spot”? I know that with my setup on SAM Putt I set up a touch closed, and make contact a touch open – Does a setup from Edel create a more neutralized condition?
Hard to say. Super curious, but I can’t state a fact I’m not aware of haha
does watching this video make any of you;
1- want an Edel putter fitting at Club Champion
2- Seriously question your head/alignment setup
Yeah, me either :oops::ROFLMAO:
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 9896142, member: 2320″]
does watching this video make any of you;
1- want an Edel putter fitting at Club Champion
2- Seriously question your head/alignment setup
Yeah, me either :oops::ROFLMAO:
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It makes me want to strap a frickin laser on my putt out and buy a tiny mirror. then go through my putter collection.
Really nice visual for understanding alignment bias. Amd how it can be adjusted for.
did the round shape have anything to do with the shift right? Or just the ability to move the line further back?
It is quite the mind bender to witness lasers while working with putting and alignment. I urge everybody to try something like this out.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 9896142, member: 2320″]
does watching this video make any of you;
1- want an Edel putter fitting at Club Champion
2- Seriously question your head/alignment setup
Yeah, me either :oops::ROFLMAO:
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Simple answer is yes and after todays round YES.
Awesome video… Never thought about aim bias like this before.
[QUOTE=”baylrballa, post: 9896150, member: 52381″]
It makes me want to strap a frickin laser on my putt out and buy a tiny mirror. then go through my putter collection.
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Hah – since watching I have been thinking about how I could replicate at home with a presentation pointer.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 9896256, member: 3″]
It is quite the mind bender to witness lasers while working with putting and alignment. I urge everybody to try something like this out.
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I’m gonna borrow a laser level from one of my buddies tomorrow…..
Interesting. Worth a watch
[QUOTE=”JDax, post: 9896609, member: 22002″]
Awesome video… Never thought about aim bias like this before.
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Yeah, I thought it had everything to do with eye dominance. Didn’t think it would be more complex than that, but clearly there’s logic involved.
So I did the laser about 90001&3784 today and the most interesting aspect is how much it aligns with my putter fitting from last year.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 9896854, member: 3″]
So I did the laser about 90001&3784 today and the most interesting aspect is how much it aligns with my putter fitting from last year.
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What head did you land on?
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 9896142, member: 2320″]
does watching this video make any of you;
1- want an Edel putter fitting at Club Champion
2- Seriously question your head/alignment setup
Yeah, me either :oops::ROFLMAO:
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I’ve thought about an Edel fitting for the last year or so. I think I’m at least a halfway decent putter, but you always wonder if there’s something more….
[QUOTE=”Snowman, post: 9896867, member: 3386″]
I’ve thought about an Edel fitting for the last year or so. I think I’m at least a halfway decent putter, but you always wonder if there’s something more….
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Between what I worked with Koske on during the video, and what SAM showed me at Club Champion, it was nice to (at the very least) get a complete understanding of what works for my stroke and WHY. That’s not expressed enough I don’t think.
This is too cool. And too mindbending. I crave more putting gadgets!
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 9896871, member: 2320″]
Between what I worked with Koske on during the video, and what SAM showed me at Club Champion, it was nice to (at the very least) get a complete understanding of what works for my stroke and WHY. That’s not expressed enough I don’t think.
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It’s very interesting how the alignment aids affect your aim, I never would have thought it made that kind of difference. Especially just moving the alignment line from the top to the flange, it seems like such an insignificant thing. Great video!
Wow, enlightening for sure! I need to find a laser…
Fantastic video and visual…. my head is swimming with thoughts about my putter set up after seeing the laser visual and wondering when I can get to CC for an Edel fitting….
Have been testing this out quite a bit the last couple of days. My putter fitting at CC kind of nailed it for me
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 9911460, member: 3″]
Have been testing this out quite a bit the last couple of days. My putter fitting at CC kind of nailed it for me
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Which head are you using? 4.0?
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 9911469, member: 2320″]
Which head are you using? 4.0?
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For this I was.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 9896819, member: 2320″]
Yeah, I thought it had everything to do with eye dominance. Didn’t think it would be more complex than that, but clearly there’s logic involved.
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Just a great video. I have never had a putter fitting. Taking a look at my Putter with the Line on the flange and when I putt on an indoor Mat I have noticed a tendency to have a right bias. During the course of your testing was grip type/size taken into consideration. I have had my putter an Evnroll ER5B for a couple years and gone through a couple grip changes. The first grip I actually felt after a while it was affecting my alignment in that it was off. I changed to a larger grip which was better and I was ok with my putting. I just this past week changed to the Golf Pride Pro Only Cord Green which is smaller than the grip it replaced and a little larger than the original. It feels great and I got a lot of putts in with it indoors before yesterday and today which were my first two rounds with it. I really putted well making a lot of Putts and it never felt better. Same putter, same stroke but it just felt better and my alignment just seemed better so im curious as to how much of a factor the right Putter grip is because it really seems to be making a big difference.