Two weeks ago, Mizuno unveiled the JPX 921 line of irons and if you missed our preview, check it out here. Over the last two weeks, we have been busy in the THP Tech Studio putting each of the four sets to the test.
The lineup consists of the Hot Metal, Hot Metal Pro, Forged and Tour. We wanted to not only tell you about the results, but show you the testing and talk you through some swings.
In the video below, we take each set for a test drive and talk a little bit about the tech, but go a step further and compare all four to each other in the wrap up with all of the data.
After watching the swings and hearing about the clubs, which set do you think fits best for your game?
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[QUOTE=”RatFink, post: 10471540, member: 3557″]
That is my thinking currently as well. While I love it when I get it, i need more experience to get stats on how often I use it and how often I get it.
The thought of a hybrid is really entering my mind, at least between my 5W and 4i, if not to replace the 4i. My theory right now is to maybe look at having the 19 degree 5W as the off the tee club, and a 19 degree Hybrid as the grass/rough club, and the 4i under it…
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That’s not a bad option. I initially got the 4 iron as I had a 19 deg hybrid old 4 iron so just going to replace it. Once I decided to go 4 hybrid though with Cobra I’m not sure I’ll ever fully go back with a 4 iron, or at least not one like the forged, now from what I’m reading I could easily game a hot metal 4 iron and that could be fun.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 10471730, member: 62865″]
That’s not a bad option. I initially got the 4 iron as I had a 19 deg hybrid old 4 iron so just going to replace it. Once I decided to go 4 hybrid though with Cobra I’m not sure I’ll ever fully go back with a 4 iron, or at least not one like the forged, now from what I’m reading I could easily game a hot metal 4 iron and that could be fun.
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Yea my struggle is trying to figure gapping. Hard to do that these days.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 10471730, member: 62865″]
That’s not a bad option. I initially got the 4 iron as I had a 19 deg hybrid old 4 iron so just going to replace it. Once I decided to go 4 hybrid though with Cobra I’m not sure I’ll ever fully go back with a 4 iron, or at least not one like the forged, now from what I’m reading I could easily game a hot metal 4 iron and that could be fun.
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I had a 919 HM 4I and liked it. Then went with a JPX FliHi to replace it. It was money. When I went with the HMPs, did the same.
[QUOTE=”Song Dog, post: 10472106, member: 18499″]
I had a 919 HM 4I and liked it. Then went with a JPX FliHi to replace it. It was money. When I went with the HMPs, did the same.
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The local shop has some 921 Hot Metals currently for sale. I’m thinking about seeing if they will sell me the 4 and 5 from the top of the set. Or maybe look at the current FliHis just to mix it up a bit.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 10472145, member: 62865″]
The local shop has some 921 Hot Metals currently for sale. I’m thinking about seeing if they will sell me the 4 and 5 from the top of the set. Or maybe look at the current FliHis just to mix it up a bit.
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There has been times where I have contemplated even doing a 5 FliHi.
[QUOTE=”Song Dog, post: 10472190, member: 18499″]
There has been times where I have contemplated even doing a 5 FliHi.
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I am a huge fan of the Fli hi from the previous generation. Point and shoot.
Play two days in a row with the HMPs and like that I made the switch. The forgiveness is crazy good. I literally screwed up a swing with the 7I and super toed it and was shocked how good it came out. Center front of green. It should have never been that good of a miss lol. The flight, dissent, and spin is what I’m looking for and just tickled that I went back to the recoils and didn’t realize how much I missed that shaft until I got them back. HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY
12GIR today with the HMP’s. As [USER=18499]@Song Dog[/USER] said, couldn’t be happier with the Recoil shaft setup in F4, elbows and wrists are much better after the rounds.
Plenty of good forgiveness on mishits. One thing I have never noticed is any flyers giving me weird distances. I can shot the pin and know what club I need to pull and just take the wind into account.
Haven’t had any issues holding greens so far thanks to a nice high ball flight.
I would happily do Fli-Hi in the 4 and 5 with HM 6-8 then HMP 9-GW. Sounds like a perfect user friendly set. Maybe all hot metals.
I ordered the HMP with the Nippon N.S. Pro 950GH NEO shafts last week and I can’t wait to hit them, it’s only been a week and the wait is already killing me.
Big thread here so I’m sorry if this has been covered somewhere. Has anyone compared the HM to the forged 921s? Is the extra forgiveness worth it over any forged feel difference?
[QUOTE=”Wasabi, post: 10524897, member: 69887″]
Big thread here so I’m sorry if this has been covered somewhere. Has anyone compared the HM to the forged 921s? Is the extra forgiveness worth it over any forged feel difference?
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I hit the HM, HMPs, and Forged. Forged definitely felt a bit better then HMs but there wasn’t much difference for me from HMPs and HMs from feel perspective.
it’s so individualized though, I’d definitely suggest trying them out yourself
[QUOTE=”Wasabi, post: 10524897, member: 69887″]
Big thread here so I’m sorry if this has been covered somewhere. Has anyone compared the HM to the forged 921s? Is the extra forgiveness worth it over any forged feel difference?
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Here is my personal take. I went from 921 Forged 95 NEO Reg shaft to 921 HMPs Recoil F3 reg. All. in all there isn’t too much feel difference between the two but there is a slight amount in my experience. Forge was and is awesome but I can get a lot more forgiveness in the HMPs. But going back to the Recoil shaft, for me was what the Dr ordered. You truly can’t go wrong with either. Both are forgiving and feel great.
[QUOTE=”Wasabi, post: 10524897, member: 69887″]
Big thread here so I’m sorry if this has been covered somewhere. Has anyone compared the HM to the forged 921s? Is the extra forgiveness worth it over any forged feel difference?
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I moved from the MX-200 irons to the 921 Forged (w/KBS Tour 120g) and 921 Hot Metal Pro (w/Recoil 95).
The 8-PW of the 921 Forged will feel similar to the MX-200, since these clubs use the 1025e Forging. Seven (7) and up use the Chromoly 4120. The Hot Metal Pros (HMP) use the Chromoly 4140M.
The 921 Forged do feel softer and are plenty forgiving but do give up a little added length and forgiveness to the HMP. The HMPs do not feel harsh at all but are not as soft feeling as the Forged.
If you have been having good success with your MX-200s, I would recommend going into the 921 Forged. I expect you will gain about 5 more yards in distance and add a little extra forgiveness.
You are not that far away. The Villages will have one more Golf Festival on April 14th and 15th. Mizuno should be there. You will need to schedule an appointment with the Sarasota Golf Center (352-259-2080) and pay $25, which will go toward a club purchase if you buy. If you do decide to go that route. I would also try the Mizuno Pro 225s. Very nice…
You probably have the Dynalite shafts? I would suggest looking at the Recoil 95s in your appropriate flex.
[QUOTE=”vintagebob, post: 10524964, member: 63125″]
I moved from the MX-200 irons to the 921 Forged (w/KBS Tour 120g) and 921 Hot Metal Pro (w/Recoil 95).
The 8-PW of the 921 Forged will feel similar to the MX-200, since these clubs use the 1025e Forging. Seven (7) and up use the Chromoly 4120. The Hot Metal Pros (HMP) use the Chromoly 4140M.
The 921 Forged do feel softer and are plenty forgiving but do give up a little added length and forgiveness to the HMP. The HMPs do not feel harsh at all but are not as soft feeling as the Forged.
If you have been having good success with your MX-200s, I would recommend going into the 921 Forged. I expect you will gain about 5 more yards in distance and add a little extra forgiveness.
You are not that far away. The Villages will have one more Golf Festival on April 14th and 15th. Mizuno should be there. You will need to schedule an appointment with the Sarasota Golf Center (352-259-2080) and pay $25, which will go toward a club purchase if you buy. If you do decide to go that route. I would also try the Mizuno Pro 225s. Very nice…
You probably have the Dynalite shafts? I would suggest looking at the Recoil 95s in your appropriate flex.
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Fantastic info. Thank you. My Dad actually lives in Lecanto so I’m up that way often. I will definitely checkout the event. I do like the MX-200s, just looking for an upgraded version. I’m not a bad or great golfer, just a very rusty veteran golfer.
Thanks again. ?
[QUOTE=”Song Dog, post: 10524938, member: 18499″]
Here is my personal take. I went from 921 Forged 95 NEO Reg shaft to 921 HMPs Recoil F3 reg. All. in all there isn’t too much feel difference between the two but there is a slight amount in my experience. Forge was and is awesome but I can get a lot more forgiveness in the HMPs. But going back to the Recoil shaft, for me was what the Dr ordered. You truly can’t go wrong with either. Both are forgiving and feel great.
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Thank you for the great info. I will try both.
Decent iron day for the most part, 9 GIR. The distances of these are amazing, we had some 20+mph winds today and I never noticed any balls that would balloon on me. On a couple downwind shots I was able to take 2 clubs less than normal so that was fun to hit those distances.
The Recoils are a perfect match for this HMP iron, good consistency in dispersion and shot dampening so no stinging of hands when you catch one to low.
[QUOTE=”Wasabi, post: 10524897, member: 69887″]
Big thread here so I’m sorry if this has been covered somewhere. Has anyone compared the HM to the forged 921s? Is the extra forgiveness worth it over any forged feel difference?
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I spent a lot of time testing these two. For me I went with feel over the forgiveness. I hindsight there is a part of me wishes I had the HM in the 5 and maybe 6 iron. But that feeling when squaring the forged in intoxicating.
Today was a driver day at the range but took my Forged 7 iron to warm up. These irons feel
so good.
can anyone speak to forgiveness between the pro and hot metal? Looking to possibly pop a 5 and 6 Iron on top of my forged set and am debating between the two
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 10542310, member: 62865″]
can anyone speak to forgiveness between the pro and hot metal? Looking to possibly pop a 5 and 6 Iron on top of my forged set and am debating between the two
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The HMPs is crazy forgiving. I’ve had the 921 Forges before the HMPs. They will blend nicely with the forges.
[QUOTE=”Song Dog, post: 10542462, member: 18499″]
The HMPs is crazy forgiving. I’ve had the 921 Forges before the HMPs. They will blend nicely with the forges.
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So noticeably more forgiving than the forged in your opinion?
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 10542495, member: 62865″]
So noticeably more forgiving than the forged in your opinion?
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yes IMO. I get away with more LOL
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 10542310, member: 62865″]
can anyone speak to forgiveness between the pro and hot metal? Looking to possibly pop a 5 and 6 Iron on top of my forged set and am debating between the two
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I didn’t play the forged, but did try them in my fitting. Definitely more forgiveness in the HMP.
[QUOTE=”Snickerdog, post: 10542554, member: 38739″]
I didn’t play the forged, but did try them in my fitting. Definitely more forgiveness in the HMP.
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Appreciate the feedback. I was seduced during my fitting with the feel or the forged and they performed similiarly in the fitting.
This may all be premature as I only have maybe a half dozen rounds on these irons but my philosophy in the middle part of my bag has changed over the past year. I’m simply trying to hit the ball with a standard flight onto the green with my five and six. Any help is a bonus.
[QUOTE=”hedley_lamarr08, post: 10524247, member: 37622″]
I would happily do Fli-Hi in the 4 and 5 with HM 6-8 then HMP 9-GW. Sounds like a perfect user friendly set. Maybe all hot metals.
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You’d have to do some magic with the lofts but that sounds like a fun set
The HMPs have been a serious ponder for me lately.
[QUOTE=”FranTheMan, post: 10542573, member: 65069″]
You’d have to do some magic with the lofts but that sounds like a fun set
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The lofts on the sets are identical
I did…..just now bought a 5 FliHi. Who knows, I could even end up with a 6 LOL These are crazy good
Anybody have a chance to compare the HMPs to the 225s? How much forgiveness do you give up with the HMPs if any? I’ve been seeing some good deals on clean used sets of HMPs but those 225s are calling me.
[QUOTE=”Wasabi, post: 10549998, member: 69887″]
Anybody have a chance to compare the HMPs to the 225s? How much forgiveness do you give up with the HMPs if any? I’ve been seeing some good deals on clean used sets of HMPs but those 225s are calling me.
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Just got a demo 225 7I in and compared to my HMP 7I, you will loose forgiveness from the HMP BUT the 225 has plenty of forgiveness.
[QUOTE=”Song Dog, post: 10550019, member: 18499″]
Just got a demo 225 7I in and compared to my HMP 7I, you will loose forgiveness from the HMP BUT the 225 has plenty of forgiveness.
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Thanks for the input. I understand that it’s just the 7i but if the HMP were a 10 on a 1-10 scale of forgiveness, where would you put the 225? I held some 225s at the shop and they looked great. How’s the feel compare?
[QUOTE=”Wasabi, post: 10550025, member: 69887″]
Thanks for the input. I understand that it’s just the 7i but if the HMP were a 10 on a 1-10 scale of forgiveness, where would you put the 225? I held some 225s at the shop and they looked great. How’s the feel compare?
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Is say a strong 7 to an 8. The feel was really good. Feel between the two, hard to say, I didn’t hit it enough. With limited time I’d say their somewhat close. For myself, I wouldn’t hesitate to play the 225s it’s good
PSA: Don’t blade the forged 8 iron from Cincinnati to what felt like Detroit in 35 deg weather. It is not the Mizuno feel you are looking for.
As I sit and ruminate over my poor ball striking the last few times out, has anyone been crazy enough to blend hot metals with pros and with forged?
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 10560656, member: 62865″]
As I sit and ruminate over my poor ball striking the last few times out, has anyone been crazy enough to blend hot metals with pros and with forged?
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The Hot Metals are good enough to play on their own. I imagine some gap issues would occur without manipulation of lofts
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 10560656, member: 62865″]
As I sit and ruminate over my poor ball striking the last few times out, has anyone been crazy enough to blend hot metals with pros and with forged?
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What would be the reasoning?
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 10560656, member: 62865″]
As I sit and ruminate over my poor ball striking the last few times out, has anyone been crazy enough to blend hot metals with pros and with forged?
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why would you want pros if you were worried about ball striking? feel like HMP is where you want to live?
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 10561352, member: 3″]
What would be the reasoning?
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Only that I have a full set of forged and recently added the Hot Metals in the 5 and 6 slot. I went Hot Metal thinking that if going for foregiveness might as well go all in, especially since I have the forged.
So then debating if I would get the HMPs in the 7 and possibly 8. I love the feel of the forged on the 9 and wedges being the 1025E and the solidness it gives me when striking it, both around the green and with little 3/4 approach shots so those stay. I like the look of the HMP better than the Hot Metals, acknowledging the smaller heel to toe impacts forgiveness, especially in the 7 and 8 slot. Not sure why it doesn’t as much in the 5 iron, maybe because all I want out of a five iron is to go high and far.
No real reason otherwise. I certainly wouldn’t go with that set composition if starting from scratch.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 10562990, member: 62865″]
Only that I have a full set of forged and recently added the Hot Metals in the 5 and 6 slot. I went Hot Metal thinking that if going for foregiveness might as well go all in, especially since I have the forged.
So then debating if I would get the HMPs in the 7 and possibly 8. I love the feel of the forged on the 9 and wedges being the 1025E and the solidness it gives me when striking it, both around the green and with little 3/4 approach shots so those stay. I like the look of the HMP better than the Hot Metals, acknowledging the smaller heel to toe impacts forgiveness, especially in the 7 and 8 slot. Not sure why it doesn’t as much in the 5 iron, maybe because all I want out of a five iron is to go high and far.
No real reason otherwise. I certainly wouldn’t go with that set composition if starting from scratch.
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Gotcha. Tinkering is fun. I have said for a bit that if one is a point and shoot golfer, meaning not interested in flighting or working the ball, grab the most forgiveness you can tolerate.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 10563028, member: 3″]
Gotcha. Tinkering is fun. I have said for a bit that if one is a point and shoot golfer, meaning not interested in flighting or working the ball, grab the most forgiveness you can tolerate.
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i went HMP’s in my 5-7 for forgiveness. For some reason my long irons are not as consistent as 8-GW. That being big said, the scoring irons are plenty forgiving and paired with the right ball can be really fun to play.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 10563028, member: 3″]
Gotcha. Tinkering is fun. I have said for a bit that if one is a point and shoot golfer, meaning not interested in flighting or working the ball, grab the most forgiveness you can tolerate.
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Yep, mostly a tinker and thought as I sat on my couch instead of making the 25 minute drive to the range.
After going 4 hybrid last year I’m clearly in the camp of if point and shoot go for forgiveness which is where I feel like I am with the 5 and 6. Occasionally I will still try and enjoy trying to shape something starting at the 7 iron. For example just over the weekend hit a nice cut around the tree that needed to be about one more foot outside to not clip the last branch…
It may be to the detriment of my score in the long run but and enhancement to my enjoyment of the game in the long run.
Ive heard the HMPs are just a touch easier to work and hence the ponder.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 10563028, member: 3″]
Gotcha. Tinkering is fun. I have said for a bit that if one is a point and shoot golfer, meaning not interested in flighting or working the ball, grab the most forgiveness you can tolerate.
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My 2 HDCP playing partner says this too, and practices what he preaches with his bag. Made me feel better about my decision to go full GI.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 10563028, member: 3″]
Gotcha. Tinkering is fun. I have said for a bit that if one is a point and shoot golfer, meaning not interested in flighting or working the ball, grab the most forgiveness you can tolerate.
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This resonates so loud with me. I can play what I have and really enjoy them, but I have to play a lot of golf to use them consistently. My next set will be in that HMP/HM size range. Maybe with Fli Hi 4-6.
So I think the 8 iron was reading the boards this week. Had a nice range session and started to bring the ball striking back under control. The forged 8 iron feels so good when struck well.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 10566447, member: 62865″]
So I think the 8 iron was reading the boards this week. Had a nice range session and started to bring the ball striking back under control. The forged 8 iron feels so good when struck well.
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Those 921 Forged do feel good. I just had mine reshafted into the Recoil 95.
Last hole, last round, tucked left pin behind a sand trap. I call “going to the middle of the green and drawing it to the pin”. Worked out even better than I expected.
I’m going to try and stick with these for awhile…
[QUOTE=”vintagebob, post: 10566474, member: 63125″]
I’m going to try and stick with these for awhile…
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I’m excited to give these an extended run in the bag. With being lucky enough to get into the Morgan Cup last year I only played a handful of rounds and then was all Cobra until this past winter when I alternated sets. Going to stick with these through June exclusively. I’m looking forward to it.
[QUOTE=”vintagebob, post: 10566474, member: 63125″]
I’m going to try and stick with these for awhile…
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I’m going for at least 10 years again!
Such tough choices with so many great options within Mizuno’s offerings. I’ve been thinking about the 921F for awhile but ended up going with MP20 HMB’s then the 225’s came out. I ended up returning the HMB’s and was about to pull the trigger on 225’s but ended up with 921HM instead.
Thought to myself since I only get to play maybe twice a month nowadays and don’t practice, went with the most forgiving option instead. Think I made the right choice given I’m more of point and shoot as stated above, plus I personally don’t have the skills to work shots on purpose at least.
The 921 Forged with Recoil 95 shafts continue to shine for me. Very consistent!