The Phoenix is a symbolic name for Xcaliber shafts in a few ways, first is the link to the era of legends and Arthurian stories which the brand name has heavy roots in, but the other symbolizes a return of a legend for Robin Arthur and the company. You see, the Phoenix is based upon the winningest wood shaft in professional golf, the Grafalloy ProLite, so the name is certainly apropos.
We were able to get the entire Phoenix range in for a closer look and subsequent review, read on to find out more.
The Details
This is a shaft design which does exactly what it claims to do, a lower spinning and mid launch profile which responds to an aggressive move, regardless of the shaft weight. The Phoenix is extremely affordable like the rest of the Xcaliber lineup, but also boasts a plethora of fitting options with three different weights and multiple flexes including TS for even the strongest swingers.
Xcaliber Phoenix Driver Shafts
The first thing I believe is important to understand when discussing the Phoenix is that this is quite literally the ProLite profile brought into modern times with improved production and tolerance capabilities. Those modern aspects are also what have allowed the creation of the Phoenix 4 and 5 which are just lighter weight versions. It is clear that in the opinion of Robin and company, the winningest shaft design of all time still stands the test of time.

An interesting thing to think about there is how limited the options were in the time of the ProLite with graphite really in its infancy. Nonetheless, success is success, but does it translate? To test that we were able not only to get all three weight classes of the Phoenix, but also each in their S and TS versions. They are also available in R, but we did not test those.

Upon unboxing, I took the Phoenix shafts, all six of them, right to the frequency analyzer to test them versus their stated flex. Interestingly, here the 5TS, 6S, and 6TS easily met their mark of S while the 5TS, barely hit the CPM to be considered stiff. The 4S and 4TS however were solidly in the R realm according to measurements. Is this all that surprising? In my opinion, not particularly, considering the goal here is keeping the same profile as the ProLite, just lighter, it seems natural that the lighter weights there would be a little softer to flex since they didn’t want to alter the design, just weight.

Each of the shafts were installed into Cobra adapters and built to the same length with the same grip as well. They were also all tested using the Cobra Darkspeed LS driver at standard 9.0 loft with the heavy weight back. This is a very fast and low spinning head for me, so it seemed to make the most sense when working with the Phoenix profile. The data captured can be seen below:
SHAFT | BALL SPEED | LAUNCH | SPIN | CARRY | TOTAL | HEIGHT | OFFLINE |
Xcaliber Phoenix 4S | 162 | 18 | 3208 | 269 | 286 | 42Y | 21Y R |
Xcaliber Phoenix 4TS | 162 | 17 | 2873 | 274 | 301 | 39Y | 19Y R |
Xcaliber Phoenix 5S | 160 | 16 | 2923 | 268 | 294 | 37Y | 16 Y R |
Xcaliber Phoenix 5TS | 160 | 15 | 2381 | 272 | 298 | 34Y | 10Y R |
Xcaliber Phoenix 6S | 161 | 14 | 2679 | 274 | 300 | 32Y | 7Y L |
Xcaliber Phoenix 6TS | 161 | 14 | 2358 | 274 | 303 | 30Y | 5Y R |
Foremost, I have to say how surprised I was at how easily these launched for me, not so much in the lighter weights knowing what I did via the CPM measurements, but more into the 5TS, 6S, and 7TS. Where spin was concerned, things certainly jumped in the softer flexed shafts, which was certainly in part due to my aggressive swing/move just leaving the face a bit open. That said, they responded impressively in terms of speed. The Darkspeed LS itself is a fast head for me, but the fact that the averages for every weight and flex option came out where they did ball speed wise was eye catching.

Something I do want to mention, in the collection with the Phoenix 5TS, that data is based on one recorded swing while the others are in sets of ten with two tossed from each to form the averages shown. The reason here is that shaft actually gave way in my second swing. Now, sometimes things happen, and I am not making a huge deal of this as I recorded the 5S, 4S, and 4TS after that incident and every one of them held up fine. However, for the sake of transparency, it needed to be mentioned.
The Details
Overall, the Phoenix showed me that the ProLite profile likely still has its place, and with the ability to make even lighter versions now, there seems to be a very wide fitting window. I would be curious to see if we get any heavier versions down the road from Xcaliber, however, as I feel like there is even more opportunity to broaden the window of fitting.
The Phoenix is available in R, S, and TS within each of the three weights, and is priced at a mere $135.00 per shaft. They are available at select fitters nationwide as well as direct from xcalibershafts.com.
[QUOTE=”checkered, post: 12569037, member: 5710″]
Glad you are feeling better. Thinking you are going to ease back into things or be able to go full at it this weekend?
Have you given further thought to trying a lighter version? I am thinking i am going to try lighter at some point but going to stick with the 6S for now.
I have continued to really wnjoy having this shaft in my Aerojet Max. Even as much of an enigma the feel is, it works for what i like in a shaft. The stability is so good and really a big part of what i like with the 6S.
Trying to work on my swing issues a bit with the rain we had, but some nice days here going into the weekend, so will get out on course again in the coming days.
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I am kicking around going either lighter or down in flex. My stats show my dispersion tends to be wider when lighter, but with how I don’t feel a bunch of load in this shaft I have wondered if they would help.
Anyone have thoughts on if lighter or a flex down would better help me launch it higher? Probably all comes down to how I react to it. I’d go whichever direction I can get more height on my drives.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12569054, member: 62865″]
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[B]Anyone have thoughts on if lighter[/B] or a flex down would better help me launch it higher? Probably all comes down to how I react to it. I’d go whichever direction I can get more height on my drives.
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I have given it some thought… I just don’t know if lighter is necessarily gonna get me into that height I get from the kaili blue. I wouldn’t be opposed to throwing some $ at it to give it a go, tho 😉
[QUOTE=”chile, post: 12569152, member: 54997″]
I have given it some thought… I just don’t know if lighter is necessarily gonna get me into that height I get from the kaili blue. I wouldn’t be opposed to throwing some $ at it to give it a go, tho 😉
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In a couple of weeks I’ll have the kaili blue 5s to compare head to head with the phoenix 4ts.
got out for a surprise 9 after work and the fantasy draft today. got called 30 minutes before my buddy’s tee time asking if I wanted to play since someone else backed out. went straight from the fantasy draft to the tee box. Made for a rough start. My first few swings were horrible, just rushed and rushing, but still managed to keep the ball in front of me and got the ball further than I would have expected for how I hit the ball. Super happy with that.
As for the Phoenix shaft, I feel more comfortable with it now and don’t even think about it as I’m swinging. I feel like I’ve gotten past trying to “figure out” what it’s doing and just let it do its thing and me do mine. It works better for me when I do that. Results after the first couple of holes were typical to what I’ve been seeing. High ball flight getting out about 230. Definitely still feel I’ve got more potential if I can get my swing sorted, so that’s something I do intent to seek help on. However, my drives have been quite playable as is, so it’s not something I intend to rush into without some research.
Highlight of the round was the par 5 ninth hole. Hit a great drive to the right side of the fairway leaving me 197 out. Ended up pulling off a bird after a solid recovery from the greenside bunker, all set up by the drive.
I continue to be very happy with the Phoenix 6S in spite of its idiosyncrasies. I can also see where some people may really be turned off on it with the lack of feeling load, and overall stiff feel of the shaft. I could see that causing people to try to alter their swing looking for something, or just feeling awkward to the point of not wanting to use it. It is truly and interesting shaft.
As always, happy to answer any questions. Thanks for following along.
Testers, wanted to pop in here and give a quick kudos to you all for the job you did with these shafts. Over the last 2 months you’ve give guys a lot of info and quite a bit to think about when it comes to the Phoenix line. I know when I first got to swing them earlier this year I was pretty impressed with what they offered in some ways, so I’m happy to see how they worked out for all of you. 2 months is a long time to dedicate to talking about shaft, and I know it’s not the easiest piece of equipment to talk about day after day, so just want to give you all the virtual high five for making this a fun one to follow.
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 12572036, member: 782″]
Testers, wanted to pop in here and give a quick kudos to you all for the job you did with these shafts. Over the last 2 months you’ve give guys a lot of info and quite a bit to think about when it comes to the Phoenix line. I know when I first got to swing them earlier this year I was pretty impressed with what they offered in some ways, so I’m happy to see how they worked out for all of you. 2 months is a long time to dedicate to talking about shaft, and I know it’s not the easiest piece of equipment to talk about day after day, so just want to give you all the virtual high five for making this a fun one to follow.
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Thanks [USER=782]@ddec[/USER] ! This was absolutely the most unique testing experience I’ve had here on THP, simply because it was my first time testing something that really did not work for me. It was still fun though, trying just about everything I could to come up with a combo that would work. I couldn’t come up with anything that really worked, but hopefully I was able to share some helpful information anyway. Seeing how the other testers got along with the shaft really does show that it could be a good fit for many.
So thanks again for the kudos ……….. any way could put in a good word for us on the selection for Apex Iron testers? ?
[QUOTE=”OldeDude, post: 12572081, member: 49557″]
Thanks [USER=782]@ddec[/USER] ! This was absolutely the most unique testing experience I’ve had here on THP, simply because it was my first time testing something that really did not work for me. It was still fun though, trying just about everything I could to come up with a combo that would work. I couldn’t come up with anything that really worked, but hopefully I was able to share some helpful information anyway. Seeing how the other testers got along with the shaft really does show that it could be a good fit for many.
So thanks again for the kudos ……….. any way could put in a good word for us on the selection for Apex Iron testers? ?
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I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tested/reviewed something that just flat out doesn’t work for my swing/game. But in many ways those are kind of more fun because at the end of the day, the product isn’t about me.
As for the Apex testing…I’ll make a phone call. The best advice I could ever give when it comes to wanting to be a part of future testing is to stay active, and when it comes your time, try to knock that testing out of the park.
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 12572036, member: 782″]
Testers, wanted to pop in here and give a quick kudos to you all for the job you did with these shafts. Over the last 2 months you’ve give guys a lot of info and quite a bit to think about when it comes to the Phoenix line. I know when I first got to swing them earlier this year I was pretty impressed with what they offered in some ways, so I’m happy to see how they worked out for all of you. 2 months is a long time to dedicate to talking about shaft, and I know it’s not the easiest piece of equipment to talk about day after day, so just want to give you all the virtual high five for making this a fun one to follow.
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Thank you sir. Much appreciated. This has definitely been an interesting and fun testing experience. Appreciate you, and everyone, following along.
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 12572036, member: 782″]
Testers, wanted to pop in here and give a quick kudos to you all for the job you did with these shafts. Over the last 2 months you’ve give guys a lot of info and quite a bit to think about when it comes to the Phoenix line. I know when I first got to swing them earlier this year I was pretty impressed with what they offered in some ways, so I’m happy to see how they worked out for all of you. 2 months is a long time to dedicate to talking about shaft, and I know it’s not the easiest piece of equipment to talk about day after day, so just want to give you all the virtual high five for making this a fun one to follow.
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Thank you and thank you to all the people who make THP possible. Getting sent something to thoroughly test and get familiar with is a different experience and something I’m excited to do more of in the future.
I’m working on my final “official” thoughts post. After the Golftec experience I will have more thoughts and another shaft to compare to with.
Gonna second [USER=782]@ddec[/USER] (reluctantly) that a long testing like ya’ll had is really hard. Well done keeping it interesting and full of info the entire period. Proud of you boys!
So, you got recommended a $250 shaft, without even hitting the free ones?
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So, you got recommended a $250 shaft, without even hitting the free ones?
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I think you may have responded to the wrong thread here….if not, can you elaborate what you were referring to? These shafts are $135 on the Xcaliber site.
[QUOTE=”ddec, post: 12572088, member: 782″]
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tested/reviewed something that just flat out doesn’t work for my swing/game. But in many ways those are kind of more fun because at the end of the day, the product isn’t about me.
As for the Apex testing…I’ll make a phone call. [B]The best advice I could ever give when it comes to wanting to be a part of future testing is to stay active[/B], and when it comes your time, try to knock that testing out of the park.
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This.
Activity is EVERYTHING in forum testing moving forward.
I want to tip my cap to you all and give a massive THANK YOU for being so consistent and diligent during this testing.
It’s insanely difficult to review a driver shaft for 8 weeks, let alone keep a testing going while losing a tester along the way. You all did it, and kept a flow here even knowing that it wouldn’t always get the most traction based on brand recognition.
So again, THANK YOU. Your hard work has been noticed, and is infinitely appreciated.
So guess I should wrap this up with a brief summary of my experience with the Phoenix 5-R shaft. Thanks THP and Xcaliber Shafts for this great test/review opportunity, it was a lot of fun, and hopefully we provided some helpful information about the Phoenix shafts for the community.
[B]Final summary:[/B]
The shaft is pretty good looking, a little on the plain side, but I’m okay with that. The flat black is nice,the graphics are simple, maybe a little clip-arty, and would probably look better if they popped a bit. Mine is the 5-R, and was listed as being 54 grams uncut, it actually weighed on my scale right at 50 grams, so a little lighter than spec, but I didn’t see anything where that was a problem.
I first installed it in my Tour Edge Exotics E723 driver, and had a couple of other shafts to compare it head-to-head with, my current gamer shaft, a UST LIN-Q M40X Red 5-F3, and a Ventus Red 4T 5-R, so all in the same weight class, but very different profiles. Unfortunately I could never get along with the Phoenix in the E723, feel was vague at best, and contact was all over the face. I’d go from shaft to shaft, and with my two other shafts I’d get consistent performance, but with the Phoenix I just never knew what I’d get, low, high, right, further right, straight, just all over the place.
I then put it in my G425 LST to see if it would work in another head. My normal shaft in that driver is a somewhat similar profile, so I thought it was worth a try. In the G425 I was able to get a little bit of consistency, the feel was still really vague, and the ball flight was still somewhat variable, but it was going consistently right, and often way right. I tried everything I could think of to get the Phoenix to work, but I had to finally accept that it just isn’t a good fit for me.
The other testers had much better success with their Phoenix shafts, so I know it will perform well in the right hands. So with that in mind, I’ll be pulling the Ping adapter and will give the shaft away to another THPer. Look for a giveaway thread coming soon, probably after the Labor Day weekend, most likely on Tuesday (I’ll try to remember to post a link here).
@ddec @MWard and @Jman – thanks for the hat tip, it’s been fun testing, even if it hasn’t been the ideal fit for me.
That said, I’m not quite ready to put in on the shelf. I’ve mentioned several times that it has been lower launching than I’d like to see but have enjoyed the feel of not feeling the load nor feeling like a board. After a few weeks off to tend to a sore elbow, got it out again today. I kinda took a @checkered approach, where I didn’t really think about it, mainly because I had very low expectations of what I would bring to my round as a whole. It felt better today than it had for most of the testing period, even though I was still a bit all over the face.
With strike point moving, I decided to have it cut to 44.5” this afternoon. If I can find center a bit more, and squeeze out a little more launch by lofting up, we may be onto something that has staying power for me. Hopefully I can sneak out one more time over the long weekend and see some immediate returns.
And even if it doesn’t make the bag, if you like a firmer feeling shaft that doesn’t seem like you need to lean on it, this one might be worth a try
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12573987, member: 62865″]
[USER=782]@ddec[/USER] [USER=3474]@MWard[/USER] and [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] – thanks for the hat tip, it’s been fun testing, even if it hasn’t been the ideal fit for me.
That said, I’m not quite ready to put in on the shelf. I’ve mentioned several times that it has been lower launching than I’d like to see but have enjoyed the feel of not feeling the load nor feeling like a board. After a few weeks off to tend to a sore elbow, got it out again today. I kinda took a [USER=5710]@checkered[/USER] approach, where I didn’t really think about it, mainly because I had very low expectations of what I would bring to my round. It felt better today than it had for most of the testing period, even though I was still a bit all over the face.
With strike point moving, I decided to have it cut to 44.5” this afternoon. If I can find center a bit more, and squeeze out a little more launch by lofting up, we may be onto something that has staying power for me. Hopefully I can sneak out one more time over the long weekend and see some immediate returns.
And even if it doesn’t make the bag, if you like a firmer feeling shaft that doesn’t seem like you need to lean on it, this one might be worth a try
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Shafts are a tough one man, especially when you’re not syncing up with them 100%. Good on you for sticking through with it and giving it all you got.
[QUOTE=”MWard, post: 12573995, member: 3474″]
Shafts are a tough one man, especially when you’re not syncing up with them 100%. Good on you for sticking through with it and giving it all you got.
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Agreed, but if our collective reviews and descriptions help someone find ”the one” it will all be worth it. Bringing my flight lower doesn’t help me, but might be a lifesaver for someone else. If someone doesn’t like that whippy feel, this could be a perfect match.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12574008, member: 62865″]
Agreed, but if our collective reviews and descriptions help someone find ”the one” it will all be worth it. Bringing my flight lower doesn’t help me, but might be a lifesaver for someone else. If someone doesn’t like that whippy feel, this could be a perfect match.
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True, but usually you can tell when you fight shaft and that it’s not gonna be a good fit for you. It ain’t fun!
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12573987, member: 62865″]
[USER=782]@ddec[/USER] [USER=3474]@MWard[/USER] and [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] –
That said, I’m not quite ready to put in on the shelf.
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Right there with you on not being quite ready to put it on the shelf. While I’ve been happy with the 6S I’ve still got some questions I haven’t answered for myself. So, I intend to keep using it and trying things. I’ll keep updating as I go. Also I am definitely going to try picking up a lighter one to see how it goes at some point. Just may need to get through a few months here before I do.
I appreciate everyone that has followed along or take any time to read any of our posts in here. Very interesting testing but a lot of fun to work through.
[QUOTE=”checkered, post: 12575662, member: 5710″]
Right there with you on not being quite ready to put it on the shelf. While I’ve been happy with the 6S I’ve still got some questions I haven’t answered for myself. So, I intend to keep using it and trying things. I’ll keep updating as I go. Also I am definitely going to try picking up a lighter one to see how it goes at some point. Just may need to get through a few months here before I do.
I appreciate everyone that has followed along or take any time to read any of our posts in here. Very interesting testing but a lot of fun to work through.
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Same. The phoenix is staying in the bag until it gets beaten by another shaft. I have a kai’li blue 50s coming and if it wants to be the daily driver then it needs to dethrone the phoenix.
Yesterday I had a hard time with it. The swing I brought wasn’t jiving with it. Couldn’t get the ball flight up… I swapped to the kaili blue for the back 9 and it was a bit better… Not great. Not good… Just better.
I’ve been working on a big set-up change which directly affects the way I’m delivering the clubhead to the ball. Thought this was a great idea to do it right before my weekly round without any practice what so ever.
Started off the round tight (tired body feeling) and literally just flop shot the driver – twice. It was funny.
Once my swing and body got loose, I was able to hit my longest drive of the season. 280 total, fade, HIGH launch, outdrove my friend by 30 yards. I didn’t swing noticeably hard, just wanted to swing under control and square up the clubface.
The shaft, I’m loving the feel, it’s tight, stout, but I can still feel where the head is and everything I give into the shaft it gives back to me. I have roughly 4 grams of lead tape on the head, with the shaft cut down to play 44.75. I just feel like the balance is really nice.
I have a XCaliber Mystic also at 44.75 in my backup driver. This shaft is more whippy it feels compared to the Phoenix, I see no reason I would need to experiment that way yet. I’m very happy with the results I’m getting.
[QUOTE=”RH Lefty, post: 12576352, member: 80528″]
I’ve been working on a big set-up change which directly affects the way I’m delivering the clubhead to the ball. Thought this was a great idea to do it right before my weekly round without any practice what so ever.
Started off the round tight (tired body feeling) and literally just flop shot the driver – twice. It was funny.
Once my swing and body got loose, I was able to hit my longest drive of the season. 280 total, fade, HIGH launch, outdrove my friend by 30 yards. I didn’t swing noticeably hard, just wanted to swing under control and square up the clubface.
The shaft, I’m loving the feel, it’s tight, stout, but I can still feel where the head is and everything I give into the shaft it gives back to me. I have roughly 4 grams of lead tape on the head, with the shaft cut down to play 44.75. I just feel like the balance is really nice.
I have a XCaliber Mystic also at 44.75 in my backup driver. This shaft is more whippy it feels compared to the Phoenix, I see no reason I would need to experiment that way yet. I’m very happy with the results I’m getting.
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Mystic has a bit more flex feel to it? How else does it compare?
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12576461, member: 62865″]
Mystic has a bit more flex feel to it? How else does it compare?
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Haven’t switched it into the gamer head yet. But I’ll give it a go next time at the simulator and report back :).
Mystic feels looser overall compared to phoenix. Likely more flex in the butt side as the tip does seem decently stable.
2” of lead tape and 1/2” off the butt end of the shaft and we may be in business. I was finding places on the range it felt like I haven’t seen in awhile. Part of that was roll, as still I’m a bit low compared to where I want to be but today seemed in a functional range. The lack of load sensation made the shaft feel like an extension of my arm which was nice from my perspective.
More or less centered three in a row here, which is great for me. Would the slightly higher strike influence my launch low?
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I’ve posted up the giveaway for my Phoenix 5-R driver shaft, you can find it here: [URL=’https://www.thehackersparadise.com/forum/index.php?threads/driver-shaft-giveaway-xcaliber-phoenix-5-r.8966585/’]Phoenix 5-R Giveaway[/URL]
So [USER=79461]@AZHack[/USER] won my giveaway, and the shaft should be in his hands sometime next week. Hopefully he will jump into this thread with how it works for him.
Thanks again THP and Xcaliber Shafts for the opportunity to test and review the Phoenix shaft, it wasn’t a good fit for me, but it was still a lot of fun. :drinks:
[QUOTE=”OldeDude, post: 12598728, member: 49557″]
So [USER=79461]@AZHack[/USER] won my giveaway, and the shaft should be in his hands sometime next week. Hopefully he will jump into this thread with how it works for him.
Thanks again THP and Xcaliber Shafts for the opportunity to test and review the Phoenix shaft, it wasn’t a good fit for me, but it was still a lot of fun. :drinks:
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I’ll definitely post up when I get some hits with it. Thank you [USER=49557]@OldeDude[/USER]!
255 carry. 0.5 roll. Yeesh.
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So hard for me to get in a groove with this guy. I’ll pipe one with a decent flight, then hook one off the planet, then hit a high spinny fade.
A lot of it is me but I haven’t found something in the shaft to lean towards that it protects against (if that makes sense). It’s so active it exaggerates everything, similar to my experience with the velocity previously.
The high spinny fade seems to be most repeatable but I’m losing 30-40 yards on my drives.
Hate to keep making tweaks to my swing and driver head when doing testing like this but I feel I need to find something to work off.
Swing weight check and regroup this afternoon.
The shaft from [USER=49557]@OldeDude[/USER] landed on the doorstep yesterday and I glued a Titleist tip on it this afternoon.
It’ll plug it into a brand new GT2 that’s only seen maybe 30 range balls since I got it. I was fitted with a HZRDUS Black 5G 60 GT 5.5 at my fitting and it’s a fantastic fit for me. With both shafts being R flex this should be an interesting comparison.
More to come.
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Just a quick update. My back is still not 100% but I went and hit some balls tonight and about 8 or 10 where with the Phoenix. Initial impressions are what a lot of others have mentioned about being flat/dead in the feel department, which didn’t seem to affect where I was hitting on the face of the club. A couple towards the toe and maybe a little high but no complete miss hits.
I had my GT2 set at the D4 setting for the HAZRDUS so I used the same for the Phoenix. Launch for the first 2 balls was very high but very straight. I reset the shaft at the Titleist default of A1 and hit a few more balls, which really helped bring it down a bit.
Overall, I really liked the results. Our range was dark and the lights don’t really reach out far enough but from the flight I was seeing I’m guessing distance is going to be pretty close to what I get out of the HAZRDUS. Had one shot that was a slight pull but I didn’t have any spray out to the right, which it my normal miss.
I’ll see if I can sneak out to the range at work in the next day or two when it’s daylight and see what kind of distance I’m actually getting.
So I had the 6s out again after a little time off and at the end of the day, for me, it just doesn’t sync well with my timing.
That said, there have been swings when it all times up that I’ve been really impressed, with a penetrating flight. Its a ballflight that I wouldn’t expect from a shaft I don’t feel much loading into.
I may ultimately end up throwing up a giveaway thread, but for anyone that has followed who is interested in a 6S please drop me a note and I’ll send it out your way. Shipping is on me unless we are going international and then we can work something out.
I’d love for a THPer to fall in love with it.
Played the 6S again after a couple of rounds with the HZRDUS in play. Seeing very similar results with both shafts, and driving the ball pretty well (for me) with both. I’ve been having fun with the 6S in the Aerojet Max and I’m hitting more fairways. Still know I can do better on my delivery and hopefully get more distance, but that’s something I”ve got to get some lessons and work on, nothing to do with the shaft.. The shaft is performing as well as I feel like I can expect for how my swing is now. Playing the HZRDUS those couple of rounds, I feel like I like the feel of it more than the 6S. Have to do more side by side comparison though.
[QUOTE=”checkered, post: 12664055, member: 5710″]
Played the 6S again after a couple of rounds with the HZRDUS in play. Seeing very similar results with both shafts, and driving the ball pretty well (for me) with both. I’ve been having fun with the 6S in the Aerojet Max and I’m hitting more fairways. Still know I can do better on my delivery and hopefully get more distance, but that’s something I”ve got to get some lessons and work on, nothing to do with the shaft.. The shaft is performing as well as I feel like I can expect for how my swing is now. Playing the HZRDUS those couple of rounds, I feel like I like the feel of it more than the 6S. Have to do more side by side comparison though.
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I know it’s tough, but how would you compare the two feels?
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12664070, member: 62865″]
I know it’s tough, but how would you compare the two feels?
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oof, you would ask. hahaha. Best I can say is that the HZRDUS feels like there’s more life to it. Like, there’s movement in it, but I still feel connected. The 6S just feels like just the slightest movement right before/at impact..not much else, but the HZRDUS feels like there’s more from transition and through impact. I’ll try to pay better attention and see if I can explain better next time.
[QUOTE=”AZHack, post: 12653696, member: 79461″]
Just a quick update. My back is still not 100% but I went and hit some balls tonight and about 8 or 10 where with the Phoenix. Initial impressions are what a lot of others have mentioned about being flat/dead in the feel department, which didn’t seem to affect where I was hitting on the face of the club. A couple towards the toe and maybe a little high but no complete miss hits.
I had my GT2 set at the D4 setting for the HAZRDUS so I used the same for the Phoenix. Launch for the first 2 balls was very high but very straight. I reset the shaft at the Titleist default of A1 and hit a few more balls, which really helped bring it down a bit.
Overall, I really liked the results. Our range was dark and the lights don’t really reach out far enough but from the flight I was seeing I’m guessing distance is going to be pretty close to what I get out of the HAZRDUS. Had one shot that was a slight pull but I didn’t have any spray out to the right, which it my normal miss.
I’ll see if I can sneak out to the range at work in the next day or two when it’s daylight and see what kind of distance I’m actually getting.
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Well, I had the Phoenix in my GT2 for the AZTHP round this past Saturday. I did hit 57% of the fairways with it, which is good. There is a bad though. According to Shot Scope, I lost anywhere from 15 to 20 yards on average over the HAZRDUS. No bueno!
So, it looks like I’ll be passing this on also. If this is something you’re interested in, keep your eye open for a little contest in the next couple of days to get it gone to its next owner.
And thanks [USER=49557]@OldeDude[/USER] for sending it my way for a bit.
[QUOTE=”AZHack, post: 12683006, member: 79461″]
I lost anywhere from 15 to 20 yards on average over the HAZRDUS. No bueno!
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Ouch. What kind of ball flight were you seeing?
Except for a couple of skyed shots, the ball flight was great. Nice and high for the most part and pretty straight (i.e. no draw/fade) when I didn’t dork things up. It just didn’t go anywhere near the distance I get with the HAZRDUS. I actually really like the shaft other than that. Both shafts are exactly the same length too. I checked that thinking maybe the Phoenix was a bit shorter and maybe I was losing the distance due to that.
In fact, I put the HAZRDUS back in last night and hit some balls at the range this morning. BINGO! Easy 240-250 carry again.
[QUOTE=”AZHack, post: 12683058, member: 79461″]
Except for a couple of skyed shots, the ball flight was great. Nice and high for the most part and pretty straight (i.e. no draw/fade) when I didn’t dork things up. It just didn’t go anywhere near the distance I get with the HAZRDUS. I actually really like the shaft other than that. Both shafts are exactly the same length too. I checked that thinking maybe the Phoenix was a bit shorter and maybe I was losing the distance due to that.
In fact, I put the HAZRDUS back in last night and hit some balls at the range this morning. BINGO! Easy 240-250 carry again.
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Any way to find a monitor? I’m curious if the feel changed your speed at all, even some subconscious comfort with one compared to the orher
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12683066, member: 62865″]
Any way to find a monitor? I’m curious if the feel changed your speed at all, even some subconscious comfort with one compared to the orher
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I’ll see what I can do.