You didn’t really think that Cobra Golf was done with the release of the new AEROJET lineup this week, did you? Not a chance, after all, you cannot forget the KING.
In a release which should garner a lot of excitement, Cobra is expanding their KING lineup of irons, bringing some siblings for their highly touted KING Forged TEC and Forged TEC X irons. Yes, this is the year that Cobra is going deep on more compact players style irons, debuting the new KING TOUR, KING CB, and KING MB irons.
Anyone else excited?
Cobra 5-Step Forging Process
When I found out that Cobra was finally going to not only release a new TOUR style technical cavity back iron this year, but also bring back the CB’s and MB’s, I will admit to letting my internet golfer excitement reach some pretty profound levels. Why exactly? Because historically, these are iron styles which Cobra has released some of the purest yet most technical irons in recent years, but there always seemed to be a sequence of alternating. Having three models hit in the same cycle is a golf nerd’s dream.
While I will dive into each of the irons individually, the material side of things needs to be discussed first. Foremost, no, we are not seeing the return of MIM (metal injection molding) as was used on the last KING TOUR irons. Why? Well, that is a question for Cobra, but I believe it is two-fold in that the material, though durable and excellent feeling, was also tough to adjust and bend, something pretty important to more compact irons. So, a shift was made to 1025 Carbon Steel and a new 5-Step Forging Process which Cobra is extremely excited about.
Consistency is at the root of this new process for Cobra Golf. You see, cast irons are actually one of the most precise and consistent ways to produce a golf club because of how controlled and uniform things in the process can be. With that, Cobra has designed a system to take their forging to that level of consistency while keeping all of the benefits of forging. How is it different from other companies? Well, most of them use four steps, but here Cobra is implementing a fifth forging strike.
For those unfamiliar, the forging process of a material like 1025 Carbon Steel starts at 1,200 degrees Celsius (that is 2,192 degrees Fahrenheit) and from there three forgings take place to get the material into the initial shaping, those are steps one through three for Cobra. From there, 2000 pounds of pressure is exerted onto the Carbon Steel at 800 degrees Celsius (1,472 degrees Fahrenheit) to take the clubhead to a refined shape including details and logos.
It is then that the fifth forging takes place under 2000 pounds of pressure at 700 degrees Celsius (1,292 degrees Fahrenheit) to not only lock in the shape, but to create the most uniform grain structure Cobra has ever had in a forged iron. At that point, polishing and CNC milling of the face and grooves takes place.
All of these steps culminate in a truly precision forged iron with painstaking focus on shaping, weight tolerances, and less variation in initial loft, lie, and bounce, as well flatness/thickness of the face. So, you see, you take all of the aforementioned steps times three for the new KING iron lineups, and Cobra is well beyond “all-in” on this segment of clubs.
2023 Cobra KING TOUR Irons
It makes the most sense to start with the most technical irons of the release, in fact, that is exactly what Cobra is calling the KING TOUR irons, a technical cavity back, and I admit that I love that description. While the forging process is being used with these irons, unlike their siblings, the TOUR’s also use some badging in the cavity (aluminum and TPU). That is because the iron heads also have CNC milled undercuts in the cavities which are then filled with the TPU and capped with the aluminum badge.
These undercuts are nothing new in club design, particularly irons of this profile, and they are highly effective at allowing the clubheads to be more efficient in how they launch and perform on misses. The weight which is removed via the undercut can then be repositioned to optimize the CG of the head to hit launch windows and parameters which Cobra wants to see. Taking it a step further, the depth at which they are milled varies on the club in the set with the undercut being deepest in the long irons and more shallow into the scoring clubs.
Size wise, Cobra touts that these are notably smaller than the KING Forged TEC irons. The topline and offset are significantly reduced and the heel-to-toe blade length is actually more compact than the KING TOUR MIM irons were, which was one constant bit of feedback given about those irons by players like myself. Rounding it out, the lofts on the new KING TOUR irons are 2-degrees stronger than the CB/MB’s to provide more distance and take advantage of the launch provided by the design.
The KING TOUR irons will be available in 3-GW (RH/LH) with the standard stock setup being 4-PW (RH only, LH sets are custom order) and they will be paired with KBS $-Taper 120’s with Lamkin Crossline Grips.
2023 Cobra KING MB and CB Irons
Pure. Forged. Irons.
The return of the KING MB and CB irons is entirely as it should be with both sets being true one-piece forgings with no undercut or pocket milling. Both sets have undergone the new 5-Step Forging Process and as such are true precision irons that fall squarely into the better ball-strikers wheelhouse. If you are a golfer who demands workability with forged feedback, it is hard to imagine seeking out something which looks to accomplish that more than these two irons.
Both irons have a heavy focus on extremely thin toplines with minimal offset for precision shot making potential that put the onus on the person swinging the clubs. Unsurprisingly, the soles are much thinner than other models in Cobra’s lineup and they possess the shortest heel-to-toe blade lengths as well. Add in that the new forging process has allowed Cobra to perfectly center the CG without having to use tungsten to manipulate it, and you see why the word “precision” keeps coming up.
The MB is exactly what you would expect in a bladed iron from a demand standpoint, while the CB utilizes the forged cavity to add perimeter weighting and some playability. It is also worth noting that according to Cobra the CB does have a slight amount more offset, but it is minimal.
Both the MB and CB will be available in full 3-GW sets (CB in RH/LH, MB in RH and 7-PW LH) as well as a stock flow setup with CB’s 4-6 and MB’s 7-PW. Additionally, through Cobra’s custom options you can create a one of a kind flow setup to fit your specific needs. The KING MB and CB irons will come paired with KBS $-Taper 120 shafts as standard and Lamkin Crossline grips.
The Details
You have seen the pictures now, and I’m betting that most would agree that these are quite possibly the most picturesque KING irons that Cobra Golf has ever produced. The irons will hit retail on 2/3/23 with the KING Tour at $1,299 (7-Piece) and KING MB/CB at $1,199 (7-Piece).
We would love to know your thoughts and feedback on the direction Cobra has taken their KING Tour and MB/CB lineups, so jump into the comments below or the THP Community as well!
[QUOTE=”meloisa, post: 12087749, member: 59081″]
Very solid! What’s crazy is that these irons look absolutely gorgeous and can compete with anyone else based on looks alone. But they don’t stop there because from what I’ve read they flat out perform as well. It’s shocking to me that I have never seen anyone game any cobra irons out here in Oregon. Cobra drivers and woods, absolutely, but irons, never. It’s wild.
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I think the last few iron releases from Cobra hopefully start to make some inroads in the iron market for them. Very under-appreciated but trending in the right direction I think.
Hi all.
I have now reed a few pages but not all 71 in this thread. ?
I reed at Cobras website that they rec the CBs if you have 3 or lower in hcp.
Is they hard to hit?
I am a pretty solid iron player and really love the the CBs.
Have not hit them yet, just hold in my hand.
Now when i am playing to buy new irons my thought are. A combo Tour 4-7 and CBs 8-pw.
Or a hole set of CBs?
[QUOTE=”Obyonetoby, post: 12111899, member: 57237″]
Hi all.
I have now reed a few pages but not all 71 in this thread. ?
I reed at Cobras website that they rec the CBs if you have 3 or lower in hcp.
Is they hard to hit?
I am a pretty solid iron player and really love the the CBs.
Have not hit them yet, just hold in my hand.
Now when i am playing to buy new irons my thought are. A combo Tour 4-7 and CBs 8-pw.
Or a hole set of CBs?
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I am a 7ish cap and play 5-GW in the CB’s with no issues. I was able to hit the MB’s pretty well at my fitting but I couldn’t take that big of jump from my old Forged Tecs to the MB’s.
[QUOTE=”echico, post: 12111909, member: 6774″]
I am a 7ish cap and play 5-GW in the CB’s with no issues. I was able to hit the MB’s pretty well at my fitting but I couldn’t take that big of jump from my old Forged Tecs to the MB’s.
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Thanks for the reply. Did you also test the Tours?
Thought if there is very big different between the both models?
[QUOTE=”Obyonetoby, post: 12111944, member: 57237″]
Thanks for the reply. Did you also test the Tours?
Thought if there is very big different between the both models?
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I hit the CBs better than the tours (dispersion). I think the tours were a little longer but the CB’s checked all the boxes for me. I was set on going into the tours when I went for the fitting but the CB’s surprised me. I have the CB 4i but I use the Forged Tec 4i from my old set in the spot as it is so much easier to hit and I get more consistent distance with it.
[QUOTE=”echico, post: 12111959, member: 6774″]
I hit the CBs better than the tours (dispersion). I think the tours were a little longer but the CB’s checked all the boxes for me. I was set on going into the tours when I went for the fitting but the CB’s surprised me. I have the CB 4i but I use the Forged Tec 4i from my old set in the spot as it is so much easier to hit and I get more consistent distance with it.
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Thanks.
Maybe i must go and have a fitting then. I really loved the look at both CBs and the Tour when i have they in my hand.
Think for the best of both world maybe a combo set have been the best
[USER=5944]@jdtox[/USER] how many more birdies would I make if I had the Tours vs the MIM Tours in the bag?
[QUOTE=”jdtox, post: 12112105, member: 5944″]
Per round?
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Out at Briggs Ranch?
There is some CB heads I made an offer on.
I talk to a local pro yesterday. He told me to get a CB or a CB/MB set.
He didnt rec a combo between the Tour/ CBs.
Just becose of the CBs loft towards the Tour not fit perfect.
And the centre of gravity also wasnt right
Can get a set of the CB for $540… I just think going more forgiving vs less forgiving at this point is the way. Seems like a steal though.
[QUOTE=”Obyonetoby, post: 12115595, member: 57237″]
I talk to a local pro yesterday. He told me to get a CB or a CB/MB set.
He didnt rec a combo between the Tour/ CBs.
Just becose of the CBs loft towards the Tour not fit perfect.
And the centre of gravity also wasnt right
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I could go on a whole rant about club advice from swing guys but I’ll just say that the transition from the Tours to the CBs in my bag is pretty flawless. Takes very little effort to pair them in a bag. And a compelling argument could be made for that being easier than the CB to MB transition despite them being same loft.
[QUOTE=”Obyonetoby, post: 12115595, member: 57237″]
I talk to a local pro yesterday. He told me to get a CB or a CB/MB set.
He didnt rec a combo between the Tour/ CBs.
Just becose of the CBs loft towards the Tour not fit perfect.
And the centre of gravity also wasnt right
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I have a tour 4 iron and cb 5-gw and it blends fine
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This was one from the other day. This KING triple combo is still proving to be my go-to on course and monitor because they’re just that damn good.
Man every time I’m thinking of a new set of irons i go out the course and play with these and wonder what could be better!
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Was all over the par 3s on back and was just steady with them almost all day. They’re such good irons. Feel and control are awesome. I really hope with the new releases that people aren’t forgetting about these.
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Was all over the par 3s on back and was just steady with them almost all day. They’re such good irons. Feel and control are awesome. I really hope with the new releases that people aren’t forgetting about these.
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These are in the back of my mind but I feel like I want to give forgiveness a try
[QUOTE=”chile, post: 12130335, member: 54997″]
These are in the back of my mind but I feel like I want to give forgiveness a try
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Just a reminder that if it’s the King Tours that you have in the back of your mind, they pack ALOT of forgiveness in them. I test that aspect six ways to Sunday.
Can’t speak to the CB’s but I think those would surprise you as well in the forgiveness category.
[QUOTE=”Wonger, post: 12131156, member: 74038″]
Just a reminder that if it’s the King Tours that you have in the back of your mind, they pack ALOT of forgiveness in them. I test that aspect six ways to Sunday.
Can’t speak to the CB’s but I think those would surprise you as well in the forgiveness category.
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CB are surprisingly forgiving
[QUOTE=”Wonger, post: 12131156, member: 74038″]
Just a reminder that if it’s the King Tours that you have in the back of your mind, they pack ALOT of forgiveness in them. I test that aspect six ways to Sunday.
Can’t speak to the CB’s but I think those would surprise you as well in the forgiveness category.
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they have been on my mind a lot lately.
I’ve been pondering new irons for a bit and keep coming back to the King Tours at the top of the contenders list (I really like the CB’s too.) I’m currently playing i200’s and bounce around between 11 and 15 index mainly due to lack of play.
I think it’s time to bite the bullet and go for a fitting to see if I can put the King Tour in the bag…. Just love reading the positive reviews on these irons.
[QUOTE=”NeverWiff, post: 12133440, member: 41925″]
I’ve been pondering new irons for a bit and keep coming back to the King Tours at the top of the contenders list (I really like the CB’s too.) I’m currently playing i200’s and bounce around between 11 and 15 index mainly due to lack of play.
I think it’s time to bite the bullet and go for a fitting to see if I can put the King Tour in the bag…. Just love reading the positive reviews on these irons.
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I had i230s tours are just as forgiving in a much better looking profile.
As I continue to use the CB’s I am amazed at just how good these irons are. I would of never thought I could fit into these but they are so easy to hit and really has made me a more confident golfer. I may not be any better but I certainly feel like I should be. :ROFLMAO:
These look good at address.
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Watched a video on YouTube and picked up some tips on how to hit the ball lower and how to take some of the hook out of iron swings. I went to the range to see if I can get the feel of the new swing ideas into play. Well I will tell you the CB’s are very responsive to change. :ROFLMAO:
I could fly the ball lower, for me, and not pull the crap out of it when I did it. I also was able to control the right to left spin. I then also able to cut the ball again as the fade has not been fading for awhile. The CB’s gave me all the feedback I could ask for and good swings were rewarded with great results. It is so nice to get a club that is this workable and the knowledge to know when the flight will come.
I then started to think about the Morgan Cup bag and would I put the set GW in again if I was lucky enough to be selected again so I played around with the CB GW to see what I could do with it. Flop….check. Low pitch….check. Full swing draw…check. Full swing fade….check. Choke down chip….check. Everything I tried with the GW was like I was hitting a specialty wedge. It was a lot of fun.
These are just so overlooked and shouldn’t be
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These are just so overlooked and shouldn’t be
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Maybe the best iron released last year..
[QUOTE=”jdtox, post: 12157323, member: 5944″]
Yet despite our efforts here they are still overlooked. Rickie has the tours in the bag still, not the CB or MB…the tours, that should tell you a little something about how good they are
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Oh.. I know. They lack nothing.
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These are just so overlooked and shouldn’t be
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Absolutely can hardly wait to hit these tomorrow!
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These are just so overlooked and shouldn’t be
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they definitely shouldn’t be. Such a good looking set and the performance reviews that are out there speak very highly for them.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 12157314, member: 3″]
These are just so overlooked and shouldn’t be
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Still very high on my list, such a great iron.
I really wish the tours didn’t have the badge in the cavity. I’m sure it contributes to feel, but the TPU insert with the cavity of the CB would be the perfect iron. If I had money to burn I would buy a single iron and try removing the badge just to see if it made a difference.
[QUOTE=”jdtox, post: 12157323, member: 5944″]
Yet despite our efforts here they are still overlooked. Rickie has the tours in the bag still, not the CB or MB…the tours, that should tell you a little something about how good they are
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More people need to know. MUST YELL LOUDER!
Something that is special about these irons…Ricky, on one end of the spectrum, then on the total opposite end of the spectrum is a high capper like me. There is a ginormous swath of golfer in between that can game these and would absolutely love them.
I distinctly remember seeing the King Tour photos right after the release last year. Absolutely LOVED the look of them but thought they would not be for me based on the type of player they are geared toward. Never thought about them again and quite frankly never would have. Having been so fortunate to been a part of the Morgan Cup allowed me to actually give these a go. Even then then there was quite a bit of hesitation as I still thought that there no way I should be playing these. As said many times before, so so underrated. Yet so playable. I dont think they will disappoint if you give em a chance.
Ok, I was wrong. I have loved the looks of these since they were released, but didn’t feel like there was any way they fit my game. I was wrong. I was able to hit both the King Tour and Darkspeed irons (both with KBS TGI 75g) today and came away shocked with the results. While I hit the Darkspeed very well, I hit the Tour even better.
Avg ball speed:
Darkspeed – 112
King Tour – 110
Avg carry (7i):
Darkspeed – 162
King Tour – 155
Avg backspin:
Darkspeed – 4500
King Tour – 5520
Avg launch angle:
Darkspeed – 16.9
King Tour – 20.2
Avg offline (dispersion):
Darkspeed – 7.4 yds
King Tour – 1.5 yds
Avg descent angle:
Darkspeed – 41.7
King Tour – 46.3
I feel like I could confidently game either set, but these King Tour were so extremely good. They were so much more forgiving and easy to hit than I’d ever imagined. I expected to lose more distance from the Darkspeed, but was pleasently surprised with how well these launched. So, so good! Buttery, forgiving, and aesthetically my speed! Ricky Fowler’s level, I am NOT, but I truly believe these irons would shock folks if given then chance!
[QUOTE=”Redd, post: 12160334, member: 5622″]
Ok, I was wrong. I have loved the looks of these since they were released, but didn’t feel like there was any way they fit my game. I was wrong. I was able to hit both the King Tour and Darkspeed irons (both with KBS TGI 75g) today and came away shocked with the results. While I hit the Darkspeed very well, I hit the Tour even better.
Avg ball speed:
Darkspeed – 112
King Tour – 110
Avg carry (7i):
Darkspeed – 162
King Tour – 155
Avg backspin:
Darkspeed – 4500
King Tour – 5520
Avg launch angle:
Darkspeed – 16.9
King Tour – 20.2
Avg offline (dispersion):
Darkspeed – 7.4 yds
King Tour – 1.5 yds
Avg descent angle:
Darkspeed – 41.7
King Tour – 46.3
I feel like I could confidently game either set, but these King Tour were so extremely good. They were so much more forgiving and easy to hit than I’d ever imagined. I expected to lose more distance from the Darkspeed, but was pleasently surprised with how well these launched. So, so good! Buttery, forgiving, and aesthetically my speed! Ricky Fowler’s level, I am NOT, but I truly believe these irons would shock folks if given then chance!
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I was in Forged Tecs (2020) and thought I would just transition into the King Tours. When I went for a fitting the Tours were great but I was shocked at how much easier it was for me to hit the CB’s than the Tours. Everyone will go into fittings with preconceived notions but allowing your mind to be changed is what it is all about.
[QUOTE=”echico, post: 12160361, member: 6774″]
I was in Forged Tecs (2020) and thought I would just transition into the King Tours. When I went for a fitting the Tours were great but I was shocked at how much easier it was for me to hit the CB’s than the Tours. Everyone will go into fittings with preconceived notions but allowing your mind to be changed is what it is all about.
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That is true. Preconceived notions can really cause us to miss out. I never put a swing on the CB/MB, but would be so curious to swing the CB’s just based on what you’re saying. It’s amazing how differently clubs can fit different people.
[QUOTE=”Redd, post: 12160387, member: 5622″]
That is true. Preconceived notions can really cause us to miss out. I never put a swing on the CB/MB, but would be so curious to swing the CB’s just based on what you’re saying. It’s amazing how differently clubs can fit different people.
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I also swung the MB’s and was hitting them well. I only allowed myself to graduate so far that day. While I was waiting for the order I kept asking myself if I had made a mistake. I picked them up from the pro shop and took them right to the range and was pleased at how well I hit them. They went right in the bag and into competitions.
This whole line is criminally underrated as is Cobra as a whole IMO. You don’t see a whole lot at them in the stores (at least I don’t). They are a great shape. Feel good and are very consistent irons.
STILL in the honeymoon phase with the King Tours. For an unbelievable early March outdoors round in Minnesota I had zero expectations for how I would play. I put some bad swings on the ball with these irons but was not severely punished. Right around the greens on alot of mishits. Now if the King Tours could mask my hosel rockets…
I flushed a couple 7irons that I really just had me smiling, just feel so good.
I still really really like the cbs
Saw a group at the range and two of the four had King Tour irons in the bag. That was new to me and I knew they knew about gear haha.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 12183122, member: 3″]
Saw a group at the range and two of the four had King Tour irons in the bag. That was new to me and I knew they knew about gear haha.
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I’ve seen more Cobra in the bag this year then ever before
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 12183122, member: 3″]
Saw a group at the range and two of the four had King Tour irons in the bag. That was new to me and I knew they knew about gear haha.
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that is surprisingly awesome.
[QUOTE=”jdtox, post: 12183757, member: 5944″]
As I have been doing some spring cleaning and going through some gear I came across my Copper MIM irons. Man those things were good, I really thought they were the ones I’d hang onto and would always have a place but the King Tours are superior in looks, shaping and color and especially feel. I really don’t know why they don’t get more attention honestly.
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I was searching high and low for a set of MIM Tour Coppers in good shape but came up empty. Wish my fitter had Cobra because the King Tours were high on my list
[QUOTE=”BuffaloPlunger, post: 12183783, member: 59303″]
I was searching high and low for a set of MIM Tour Coppers in good shape but came up empty. Wish my fitter had Cobra because the King Tours were high on my list
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There’s new sets out there for 600 bucks
[QUOTE=”LSMO, post: 12183823, member: 33657″]
There’s new sets out there for 600 bucks
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They were only available right handed. I did find a new set of lefty for $600 but they were in chrome. CPO had a used set for about $800 but they were +.5”
[QUOTE=”jdtox, post: 12183838, member: 5944″]
Well you’re in luck because while you may have missed out these are better in every way…unless you really wanted Copper. If your fitter doesn’t have them I’d find someone who does.
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Sadly it’s too late for now as I ended up going with Pings. I may explore some of the Darkspeed line up with woods…plus there is always the chance with the Morgan Cup
[QUOTE=”jdtox, post: 12183757, member: 5944″]
As I have been doing some spring cleaning and going through some gear I came across my Copper MIM irons. Man those things were good, I really thought they were the ones I’d hang onto and would always have a place but the King Tours are superior in looks, shaping and color and especially feel. I really don’t know why they don’t get more attention honestly.
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Do you think it’s because they got sold as players irons?
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12184148, member: 62865″]
Do you think it’s because they got sold as players irons?
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I think that’s a big part of it. To see that they’re recommended for Tour – 7 handicap, if folks pay attention to that, is pretty daunting (at least it was for me). I only hit them to say I had, but it didn’t take long to realize I had been wrong in avoiding them.
On top of that, while it’s incredibly unfortunate, there are people that won’t give a look in the direction of Cobra simply because they aren’t one of the big 3.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12184148, member: 62865″]
Do you think it’s because they got sold as players irons?
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I have talked to a lot of randoms over the last few months. The few that ask me about my irons or look in my bag always say the same thing. “I never look at Cobra for anything.” There is a subset of folks that will only try the big 3 in OEMs.