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Great recap there War Eagle! Yes, I remember that 9i shot and us discussing it. There were several times where you were going after it and it really hurt your game (not just with the irons). I saw a huge difference once you started staying in that tempo that you talked about.
I know the biggest thing for you was seeking a higher ball flight and you definitely found that without hurting your iron game in any way. The game is played much differently when you can "play to a number" and not have to account for landing and rollout, etc. I love reading how these are working for you - keep up the great work!!
JN: even though the round did not go as you had intended it is good to hear that these can be flighted even if that is not the intention. Interesting to hear how your next outing goes and if you can get back that higher flight that you were seeking, sounds like just an off day as you eluded to.
KBS Tour 90 - League Night Thoughts and Results
Previous KBS Tour 90 Thoughts:
Range Session: Click Here
Should you replace your shafts:Click Here
Course Testing w/ pics: Click Here
Wedge Range Session: Click Here
Stats Post: Click Here
I think it goes without saying that the fellow KBS shaft testers have been seeing some amazing results. It is hard to explain how/why we are seeing such vast improvement. Tadashi, put it best, CONFIDENCE. It has been the ultimate result from putting these shafts in clubs we love. As you can see by the results. Tonight's result:
There were several shots on the bogey holes where I barely missed the green.
Hole 3 - I put the ball in the fairway on the right side where the ball ended up on an uphill lie with the ball above my feet. The shot was about 155 to the middle and pulled a 7 iron, I would have used a 6 iron in the past. I put a good swing on it. It carried nice and high and landed soft just to the left of the green. The ball flight was a right to left due to the ball above my feet. It was poor aiming on my part.
Hole 4 - Put my 3 wood in a fiarway bunker on the left side. I pulled a 7 iron from 152 uphill. I picked it clean and hit a high ball right onto the front part of the green. The KBS Tour 90 allowed me to hit a great ball out of the bunker and placed it nicely on the green. Several "good shot perry" rang out from the fairway...THAT PUTS A SMILE ON MY FACE
These were some highlights from my night during league play. Hard to argue my results. Once again the stat that really sticks out is my GIR putting. It was 2.2 tonight. Where my average is 2.8 putts per GIR. This has been a wake up call to my new GolfTec teacher. He says keep at it and he said he will work with me more on my overswing to get me more consistency. Correctly fitting shafts just makes me go out there and attack pins where my old clubs always had me thinking which way the ball was going to miss. Poor swing thoughts are now a thing of the past since these shafts have been in and highly recommend getting yourself fit online via KBS' website. It will do wonders for your game. Let me reiterate what War Eagle has said. Hitting long irons no longer scare me. I can expect a more positive result without having to swing out of my shoes and "trusting the club" to do the work. This has never been more evident.
To be continued...
KBS Tour 90 Shaft Testing
8/1/12 - 9 Hole Round & Some random thoughts...
Alright, so I havent had an update here in a minute, but that doesnt mean my mind hasnt been churning and burning with what these shafts have helped me achieve in my golf game. For this review, I will highlight my round from this evening, as well as talk about some thoughts that I had in a round prior the MC in Myrtle Beach and some things that made me think.
My round tonight...
I played great tonight, and a lot of that has to do with my confidence in my game right now. The greens had recently been sanded so putting was a struggle, but I dont place the blame for putting struggles 100% on the greens.
Regardless, 7/9 greens had me excited. Rightfully so, I have gotten to the point now that I expect to hit my shot on it's line and hold the green. As long as I keep myself in an even tempo and contain my swing, these shafts fit perfectly with me. I have three shots from tonight that I want to really highlight, as these three shots really showcase what I have been seeing throughout the past month;
- Hole #12, Par 3; 168 yards: This hole can be tricky, as it is all carry over water to a slightly elevated green. I had my 7iron, and choose to go without a tee (something I find myself doing more often since switching to these shafts in my irons). I hit my 7iron quite well, taking a nice divot and seeing a very nice high ball flight. The ball landed past the pin, and pulled back a few feet. My playing partners said it was tight, and from where we were it looked like it was. Got up to the green, and I was well inside the previous groups "Closest to the Pin" marker. I had hit my shot within 5 feet for an easy birdie, and my first ever in 4 years "Closest to the Pin" win. I was ecstatic. In the past I had been praying to land the green, tonight I was firing at the pin.
- What this shot showed me was that with my slightly higher ball flight, I am seeing a slight distance increase. Usually, 160 yards is the most I get out of my 7iron. Tonight, I felt comfortable that I had my number right, and had the club picked perfectly. The results showed me I was correct, and a tap in birdie on a Par 3 is something that I can get used to!
- Hole #15, Par 4: After my tee shot, I am left with 186 yards in to the pin. There was a slight wind at my back, and I was really feeling that I could get my shot where I needed it. I pulled the 6iron from the bag, and knew that I would have to get a solid shot on it to get it to where I needed it to go. I put a beautiful strike on the ball, and although it didnt cut as I was expecting it to do, I wont complain about it going straight. High ball flight with the 6i, and landed the left side of the green, leaving me with a long birdie try.
- The fact that I can even think about pulling an iron with confidence for a shot over 180 yards says it all to me. I actually landed the green, and held it with my 6iron. When I hit the long irons pure with these shafts in them, I know it instantly, and it's a great feeling.
- Hole #17, Par 3: Playing to 135 yards tonight at a back pin location. I went with the PW and sent it out there, dead straight and HIGH! Ball flight was amazing, just got up in the air quickly, and came down with a sharp trajectory that had the ball land at stick. I was pin high, and looking at 25 feet or so for my bridie try.
- I get excited now when I have a short iron shot. 8-PW, I feel like I can put my shot wherever I want it to go. Extreme confidence, and a lot of it has to do with being able to stick my shots when I land the green. I have long worked my way around courses that I play, and focus on getting to the 150 yard marker. If I can get there, I know that my short irons will serve me well and allow me to pull off the shot I want.
I really cant say enough good things about these irons. Having the opportunity to talk equipment with other THPers over this past weekend was great, and I just couldnt say enough about these shafts that I have in my irons. They have absolutely transformed my game, and my approach to shots that I have. Confidence in my short irons is at an all time high, and being able to pull of a tough shot with a long iron is priceless.
Now...for some random thoughts;
- I played a "Pre-MC Round" in Myrtle beach this past weekend with some of the guys, and I talked about these shafts for a while. During that round, Cookie/SW/DHJKelly all saw first hand what happens when I get away from my "smooth tempo" swing thought with these irons. The results werent great. When I keep with my swing thought and contain my swing, I drop my shots where I want them.
- During that round, we were about 145 yards out from the pin and I hit a very, very bad 9iron shot. I think Cookie looked at me and said, "What the heck was that?". I dropped another ball, then said, "I need to reread my own reviews, and remember my swing thought." I hit the second shot to prove a point, that shot landed me about 8 feet from the hole. It's all about keeping my swing in sync and getting myself in the proper position to make a solid strike on the ball.
- During league tonight, after I hit a great 6iron shot, one of the guys asked about my irons. He was playing the Cally X Forged w/ a flighted 6.0 shaft in them. He loved the looks of my irons (loved the green setup!), and wanted to hit them. I explained what I was working with in the KBS Tour 90 shafts, and he hit the same shot from where I had just hit. All he could say was "smooth." He was blown away at the feel of the iron/shaft combo I had, and kept saying that he felt in absolute control of his swing even though the shaft was lighter than what he played.
- My game is coming around, and I give most of the credit to my iron play. The two bogeys I had in my round tonight came when I didnt hit a green. There is a lot to be said about being accurate when you have an iron in your hand. I cant say it enough, but these have taken my confidence to a new level.
- Hitting 7/9 greens in 9 holes for me is crazy. I never see those numbers...on 18 holes, much less 9 holes. But tonight, I felt as if I couldnt miss.
I am absolutely thrilled with my current iron setup. Having long wanted to find a way to get my ball flight higher than what it was in the past, the KBS Tour 90 shafts have given me that. I still have my misses, but what I find is that my ball striking has gotten more consistent, and that I can rely on my swing to produce the shot results that I need. I have a few rounds lined up for this weekend, and look forward to getting these irons back out there and seeing if they can continue to help me see awesome results.
I'm kinda worried War might slaughter me the next time we go out and play. That's some impressive GIR numbers right there man and a heck of a score.
I'm trying to catch up on this thread since the last 10 days have been kind of a whirlwind. I must say I am liking what I am hearing from all of you.
Thanks dude. You can still out drive me though.I'm kinda worried War might slaughter me the next time we go out and play. That's some impressive GIR numbers right there man and a heck of a score.
Thanks dude. You can still out drive me though.
I will have to listen or relisten to that show. I started on #10 today, so the birdie was on my 10th hole, actually, but i'll take 'em wherever I can get 'em.That's an interesting thought in regards to the wedge shafts. There was a radio show awhile back talking about weight of shafts being consistent throughout the bag. I think it was one of the Hoeflich shows, maybe JB can confirm that.
Nice birdie out of the box too dude.
WE, I have found the opposite coming from the stockers in my CG14 wedges. I was extremely inconsistent with clubface contact. I had one Tour 90 put into y gap wedge and left the sand wedge alone. I have the typical sometimes scoopy wedge game with my stock shafts. But now, it seems easier to get the ball up in the air with the Tour 90's. They are are an order of magnitude better than my stock wedge shafts. However, it is interesting for your to see a degrading performance switching from the DG spinner. Are you saying the DG spinner was better or worse? Perhaps the lighter weight Tour 90 is the problem? Do you like the heavier shaft in the wedges?
Yes sir, one of the things that has shown me is how important a wedge shaft is. The KBS Tour 90s are 102g and the DG Spinners are 124g. Thats a pretty significant increase, and I think it's just throwing me off. It makes sense when I think about it.War you know my thoughts on the matter. Up until recently I didn't pay too much attention to my wedge shafts and just went with spinners. Now I have the same shaft though out my irons and wedges and I like the consistent weight and feel I get from that. I would imagine if you were going from a 90+ gram shaft to a 120+ gram shaft that could have been causing an issue or two.
You have what I am saying backwards, but it's confusing...
What I am saying is; When I was playing the wedges with the KBS Tour 90s in them, my wedge game was pretty good and a strength of my game. About two weeks ago I changed wedges that have the spinners in them, and my wedge game has declined.
So; KBS Tour 90s in my wedges was giving me good results, spinners seem to be giving me fits now. I think it has to do with switching from a light weight iron to a heavy-ish wedge?
Yes sir, one of the things that has shown me is how important a wedge shaft is. The KBS Tour 90s are 102g and the DG Spinners are 124g. Thats a pretty significant increase, and I think it's just throwing me off. It makes sense when I think about it.
I absolutely loved the Tour 90 shafts in my Nike wedges, and they were working great for me. Back in the bag they go!
Yeah, it could be it. I just thought it was me struggling with my wedges, but it really makes sense now that I am thinking about it.Ah gotcha! Perhaps that is the same reason why my sand wedge has been misbehaving badly! Only my gap wedge has the Tour 90 in it and it is much better out on the course. Range sesh during lunch tomorrow will shed some light.
Me too, hopefully I see some improvement back to where I was a few weeks back.I'll be interested to see what kind of difference you see.
That's an interesting thought in regards to the wedge shafts. There was a radio show awhile back talking about weight of shafts being consistent throughout the bag. I think it was one of the Hoeflich shows, maybe JB can confirm that.
Nice birdie out of the box too dude.
Yes sir, one of the things that has shown me is how important a wedge shaft is. The KBS Tour 90s are 102g and the DG Spinners are 124g. Thats a pretty significant increase, and I think it's just throwing me off. It makes sense when I think about it.
I absolutely loved the Tour 90 shafts in my Nike wedges, and they were working great for me. Back in the bag they go!
A swingweight scale, I believe it is called. I will see what I can find out at Golfsmith this week.Question. Is there a way that you can see exactly what the swing weight is comparing the 2 wedge sets? I think I've seen some sort of balance beam device that club builders use to check swing weights would this apply to the wedges?