While there has been much anticipation and discussion surrounding just when we would finally be able to discuss the new JPX iron lineup from Mizuno, fret no more, the time is finally here.
It has been enjoyable to watch Mizuno really find their groove in recent release cycles, that may seem strange at first when talking about a company renowned for their iron releases, but it’s true. The company has doubled down on producing irons and wedges worthy of the Mizuno name, which has brought the JPX line back to club designs that aren’t trying to be something the company isn’t. When you combine the massive success and popularity of JPX and particularly the Hot Metal design which amassed significant market share with the Mizuno Pro lineup you have the most complete alternating iron release cycle in golf, period.
But this day is about JPX923 irons specifically, so let’s get into it!
Mizuno JPX923 Irons
The tagline surrounding the new JPX923 series from Mizuno is “Engineered for Custom” and this whole premise is based in the data which the company has collected through fittings as well as their Shaft Optimizer. What that showed them is there are trends with golf, and specifically the golfers moving to Mizuno. First, there is an overall tendency of golfers to put more shaft lean on than ever, which has a direct effect on the playable bounce and loft of the club at impact. Second, there are more lower clubhead speed golfers going out to get fit, and they are finding that the modern trends in “game improvement” irons have left them behind. Mizuno has realized that the JPX lineup is the perfect playing ground of innovation to address those things.
What that has led to is the broadest iron release we have ever seen from Mizuno Golf. Yes, the Forged and Tour options return in the JPX923 lineup, but the biggest story is perhaps once again Hot Metal, and in this cycle, we are getting three designs. So yes, you read that right, in all, the JPX923 iron release is comprised of five iron models.
Mizuno JPX923 Hot Metal
The Hot Metal has been a revelation in golf, Mizuno applying Chromoly was nothing short of an absolute game changer both for the company as well as golfers. This year, there is an important change there as the company is introducing Nickel Chromoly. According to the company, the material itself is 35% stronger and with that brought a sizeable jump in speed to the table, so much so that the designers were able to switch focus from fighting for speed to dialing in feel and stopping power. This 35% strength jump means the faces can be made 8% thinner, which is an incredible jump. Better yet, they found that this inclusion of Nickel added strength but not at the cost of bendability for fitting adjustments, a true win-win.
Material isn’t all that has changed however, under the hood of the Hot Metal 923’s is a new CORTECH multi-thickness face with a new seamless face cup design that brings a 360 Face Cup to a level which quite possibly has not been done before in terms of complexity and versatility. Add in a variable sole thickness aspect and “V-Chassis” feature which helps to bring the sound of a new (quite literally hotter, Hot Metal) material back to where a Mizuno iron should be and you can see clearly that this is no refresh, this is much more.
The JPX923 Hot Metal consist of the Hot Metal, Hot Metal Pro, and new Hot Metal HL. The Pro is everything that golfers have come to expect, design wise it takes what the 921 established as a true modern iron with massive playability and imbues into the design all the new material and technological aspects while keeping a size which will appeal to a broad range of golfers.
Meanwhile, the Hot Metal is more forgiving than its sibling offering more blade length, a slightly thicker topline, and more offset. With all that comes a notable jump in playability and forgiveness while still producing copious amounts of ball speed. Here, the new Nickel Chromoly looks to shine with Mizuno’s testing, showing staggering ball speed potential.
However, the biggest story is the Hot Metal HL, a direct answer from Mizuno to all the fitting data they collected which showed a massive gap in the market for players who swing at slower speeds. Essentially, the trend with irons has been more speed, and lower spin, which also equates to lower launch. The issue there is for some golfers all those things can actually be a bad combination. Where is Mizuno drawing that line? Well, according to their data 1 in 4 golfers swings a 7-iron at 75 MPH or less, so it is that realm which the slightly larger (more offset, blade length, topline) HL’s come in. According to Mizuno, they have cracked the code of creating an iron that offers more launch and controlled spin where these golfers need it (long irons) while still keeping the distance which they all desire.
Mizuno JPX923 Forged and Tour
The follow up to what has been nothing short of a rockstar designs for Mizuno, the Forged and Tour are indeed back with the 923’s. While there is a plethora of irons in this class which talk about forged this, and forged that, most are only applying that to one portion of the design. Mizuno on the other hand, is using a one-piece billet forging to create these irons. Why is this a big deal? For Mizuno, it means maintaining design integrity with continuously flowing grains throughout the head, and that means a feel for which they are renowned.
Material wise, the 923 Forged is using a billet of 4120 Chromoly in 4-7 and 1025E in 5-GW. After forging, the iron heads are back milled which places a micro slot into the head allowing for the flex that Mizuno wants in the design without them having to do any welding which would disrupt the grain flow of the material. While the 921 Forged was an iron that truly broke the mold for the players segment with the application of Chromoly, the 923 has seen refinement allowing for a thinner face which increases the overall speed and more importantly rebound area than in the 921. It is the same refined look which golfers with a picky eye fell for last time around, with feel, flight, and speed refinements. Not to mention, YES, there are left-handed heads.
The 923 Tour are just what the name implies, these are true one-piece forged players cavity irons which come from a solid billet of 1025E. The lineage of these irons are part of what has put Mizuno’s JPX line on the rocket ship it seems to be riding from a popularity standpoint as they brought the traditional players iron to a modern design and refinement which of course won Major Championships along the way. With the 923 Tour, the refinement continues. Yes, the copper underlay is present here and makes for truly impeccable feel/feedback but also a lot of massaging to the shape was done. In the 6-PW, it is now shorter heel-toe and the topline is not just thinner, but also cambered more making it look much thinner than previous versions. Additionally, work was done with the weight pads in the rear to optimize the feedback and create a modern Tour iron which might just have no rival.
The Details
As you can see, Mizuno has been hard at work with the new JPX923 iron release and they’ve left no stone unturned to create a five iron lineup that will offer something for everyone. While some will point to the evolution of Mizuno as a company showcasing the JPX, it is more that the company has truly built a direction for JPX within what the Mizuno is.
The new JPX923 Hot Metal irons will hit retail on 10/13/22 with a price tag of $1,095 for an 8 piece set or $137.50 per iron. The JPX923 Forged and Tour following early next year on 2/9/23 with a price tag of $1,500 for an 8 piece set or $187.50 per iron.
For more information, check out their website at www.mizunogolf.com.
This wait is going to be rough. I knew that with trading my current irons I would have to game my old TM Rocketbladez for a bit, but I didn’t realize just how spoiled I had gotten with the Mizunos. Spent some time at the range to get reacquainted with the TM’s and man, they almost felt harsh by comparison. Gonna be a long wait.
I’m going to hit an HMP later with a V1 just so I can channel my inner [USER=65950]@That post[/USER] and bask in the sound.
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I’m going to hit an HMP later with a V1 just so I can channel my inner [USER=65950]@That post[/USER] and bask in the sound.
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It’s sooooo good.. :love:
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I’m going to hit an HMP later with a V1 just so I can channel my inner [USER=65950]@That post[/USER] and bask in the sound.
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It’s better like this.
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It’s better like this.
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A left handed O&S still strikes the ball like Thor’s hammer?!?!? :p
Sounds really good…
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A left handed O&S still strikes the ball like Thor’s hammer?!?!? :p
Sounds really good…
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I really need to remember things are flipped in selfie. I live on course. I don’t know anything about this strange indoor world of synthetic grass and no target and a guy shanking one into the pony wall behind me while I was hitting 7 irons, much less how to properly capture it all. :LOL:
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I really need to remember things are flipped in selfie. I live on course. I don’t know anything about this strange indoor world of synthetic grass and no target and a guy shanking one into the pony wall behind me while I was hitting 7 irons, much less how to properly capture it all. :LOL:
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Gotta love those inbound gunshot blasts to the thin piece of wood separating you from a hosel rocket. Your dedication and bravery is very much appreciated.
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I am starting to compile a little ShotScope data. As mentioned before I’ve only got 6 full rounds with the HMP’s. But that’ll have to do since I broke it and can’t collect more.
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I’m gaining around 10 yards a club some a little more some a little less. Again there isn’t a lot of data by my count less than 10 shots with each HMP. Whereas the 699’s have 100’s of shots over the course of 90+ rounds. I know yardage is just part of the story, doesn’t matter how far it goes if it’s not where you want it. I’m happy with the gains though.
It’s going to take a while longer to dig through the “Shots plotted” feature to get a good comparison of accuracy/dispersion, etc… I have started that but am nowhere near ready to share that data yet so stay tuned.
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I am starting to compile a little ShotScope data. As mentioned before I’ve only got 6 full rounds with the HMP’s. But that’ll have to do since I broke it and can’t collect more.
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I’m gaining around 10 yards a club some a little more some a little less. Again there isn’t a lot of data by my count less than 10 shots with each HMP. Whereas the 699’s have 100’s of shots over the course of 90+ rounds. I know yardage is just part of the story, doesn’t matter how far it goes if it’s not where you want it. I’m happy with the gains though.
It’s going to take a while longer to dig through the “Shots plotted” feature to get a good comparison of accuracy/dispersion, etc… I have started that but am nowhere near ready to share that data yet so stay tuned.
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What effect have the gains had in your other stats, and ultimately, your score.
If it’s too early to draw a comparison, what do you [I]think [/I]the benefits will be? Have holes at your home course been more accessible on approach?
[QUOTE=”That post, post: 10986039, member: 65950″]
I am starting to compile a little ShotScope data. As mentioned before I’ve only got 6 full rounds with the HMP’s. But that’ll have to do since I broke it and can’t collect more.
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I’m gaining around 10 yards a club some a little more some a little less. Again there isn’t a lot of data by my count less than 10 shots with each HMP. Whereas the 699’s have 100’s of shots over the course of 90+ rounds. I know yardage is just part of the story, doesn’t matter how far it goes if it’s not where you want it. I’m happy with the gains though.
It’s going to take a while longer to dig through the “Shots plotted” feature to get a good comparison of accuracy/dispersion, etc… I have started that but am nowhere near ready to share that data yet so stay tuned.
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Lofts are different correct? HMP @25*, and the 699 @27*?
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What effect have the gains had in your other stats, and ultimately, your score.
If it’s too early to draw a comparison, what do you [I]think [/I]the benefits will be? Have holes at your home course been more accessible on approach?
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It’s still kinda early to draw proper conclusions but [I]I think[/I] the added length is translating to more opportunities. I am going for the par 5 #12 and 14 in 2 more often (that could also have to do with the harder ground giving more rollout) but I like to think the added distance is helping there too.
I know I’m hitting shorter clubs into greens and I know that is helping with proximity to the hole on approach shots.
When I am missing the misses aren’t as terrible and much easier to have an opportunity of saving par from.
My very home course dependent handicap keeps creeping down too.
???? Haven’t updated since right before VC.
Now:
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It’ll be interesting to see the limited data I’m able to pull from my recorded ShotScope stuff it’s back to the notebook and videos for the rest of my rounds this year. Maybe I’ll get fancy and make something in excel ?
[QUOTE=”yellolab, post: 10986215, member: 17896″]
Lofts are different correct? HMP @25*, and the 699 @27*?
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I had the 923’s bent to the same lofts or maybe 1° strong I can’t remember. I’ll try to look I know I wrote that somewhere
Listening to Chris Voshall in an interview. He stated on how Mizuno increased the MOI or forgiveness of the clubs. Not only horizontal but vertical as well.
Then this morning I found this picture showing what they did.
Interesting to see, as my strike pattern is similar to how the MOI pattern looks like when I spray powder on my clubs ?
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Listening to Chris Voshall in an interview. He stated on how Mizuno increased the MOI or forgiveness of the clubs. Not only horizontal but vertical as well.
Then this morning I found this picture showing what they did.
Interesting to see, as my strike pattern is similar to how the MOI pattern looks like when I spray powder on my clubs ?
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Awesome visual. And I will sush an entire room anytime something comes on with Voshall talking forgiveness and MOI across different axis. It doesn’t get much better.
Had a chance to hit the HM HL 7i demo again today along with the Fli Hi 29*.
I kinda thought the Fli Hi would be more of a 6i replacement but to my eye based on the 150 stake it seemed like the 7i was actually launching higher and flying farther than the Fli Hi on avg. Really would love to try the HL 6i.
I am one that likes to setup with the shaft in line with my front arm and for some reason this season with my irons haven’t been able to hit the ball well doing that. so I am in more of a weaker feeling setup. With the HL’s I setup with more shaft lean and the ball still got up really high and with a hint of a draw…
I hit today with the ESX460 Recoil F3 and liked it. Nice and smooth feeling with a bit of kick to get the ball in the air.
Still a hard ponder. Just hate to pull the trigger with these essentially being the first out for 2023 irons.
Would like to see the G430 irons in person befor pulling the trigger.
Some pics of todays contact with both.
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Really interested in these irons but I have to wait until forged comes out because I had the 900F and 919F. That and the updated DART shafts as well.
OK gentlemen. I blame you for this. I have my fitting set for Friday at 12pm. If all goes well there will be a new set (7-PW) of JPX923 Hot Metal or Hot Metal Pro irons on order. Don’t tell my wife. ?
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Really interested in these irons but I have to wait until forged comes out because I had the 900F and 919F. That and the updated DART shafts as well.
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I am also coming from 900F, 919F, and currently in Recoils 95 F4s. Also waiting for the 923F to take a look.
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OK gentlemen. I blame you for this. I have my fitting set for Friday at 12pm. If all goes well there will be a new set (7-PW) of JPX923 Hot Metal or Hot Metal Pro irons on order. Don’t tell my wife. ?
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I think my biggest decision will be which grips to get. I love all of these. Any suggestions?
Golf Pride- CP2 wrap, MCC, MCC Plus 4, MCC Align. (Midsize)
If it wasn’t for the forgiveness and ease of use with these irons yesterday I would have easily shot over 100 with my 40+ putts. I’m so glad I have irons I can trust while I’m going through the yips with the putter.
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OK gentlemen. I blame you for this. I have my fitting set for Friday at 12pm. If all goes well there will be a new set (7-PW) of JPX923 Hot Metal or Hot Metal Pro irons on order. Don’t tell my wife. ?
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Where are you going? Windmill in Macedonia?
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I think my biggest decision will be which grips to get. I love all of these. Any suggestions?
Golf Pride- CP2 wrap, MCC, MCC Plus 4, MCC Align. (Midsize)
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Really, really look at the Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid grips. I WAS all in on Pure, but now it’s the Lamkins.
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Where are you going? Windmill in Macedonia?
Really, really look at the Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid grips. I WAS all in on Pure, but now it’s the Lamkins.
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Going to Golf Galaxy. I know one of the fitters there.
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I think my biggest decision will be which grips to get. I love all of these. Any suggestions?
Golf Pride- CP2 wrap, MCC, MCC Plus 4, MCC Align. (Midsize)
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I went with the MCC Plus 4 in blue. I thought about going with a softer grip, but couldn’t find anything I liked enough. I had the MCC Plus 4’s on my 921’s and really liked them, so I just stuck with them. They also work pretty well with my sweaty hands and that was important to me. Are you going with black or were you thinking about a color to mix it up?
One week from today for release!
I’m excited to get my dad to go demo the HM HL’s. I think he’s going to love them. I’m going to hit them as well.
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Some pics of todays contact with both.
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Oh,, They’re in you bag….:p
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OK gentlemen. I blame you for this. I have my fitting set for Friday at 12pm. If all goes well there will be a new set (7-PW) of JPX923 Hot Metal or Hot Metal Pro irons on order. Don’t tell my wife. ?
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I have an fitting set up for the 19th.
The Villages Mizuno Day is October 27th.
I MAY have a morning appointment. 😉
One of the guys in the village went the smart route on getting the Tours. We’re not lemme borrow friendly, so I offered services in exchange. I mean I would take the deal if I were him. ?
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Two weeks! I waited 12 weeks for my 223’s…I ordered these the 21st and the came today. Prettiest irons I’ve ever owned: JPX 923 Hot Metal Pros, 2 up, +1/2” i110 Steel Fiber shafts…
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Two weeks! I waited 12 weeks for my 223’s…I ordered these the 21st and the came today. Prettiest irons I’ve ever owned: JPX 923 Hot Metal Pros, 2 up, +1/2” i110 Steel Fiber shafts…
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Excellent ferrules!
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Two weeks! I waited 12 weeks for my 223’s…I ordered these the 21st and the came today. Prettiest irons I’ve ever owned: JPX 923 Hot Metal Pros, 2 up, +1/2” i110 Steel Fiber shafts…
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Whoa! Just two weeks? Mizuno must’ve been ready to go with these! I didn’t think they would even start shipping preorders until they released to retail on 10/13.
Beautiful irons, btw!
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Two weeks! I waited 12 weeks for my 223’s…I ordered these the 21st and the came today. Prettiest irons I’ve ever owned: JPX 923 Hot Metal Pros, 2 up, +1/2” i110 Steel Fiber shafts…
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That ferrule/grip combo?
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[QUOTE=”will, post: 10988440, member: 7159″]
I went with the MCC Plus 4 in blue. I thought about going with a softer grip, but couldn’t find anything I liked enough. I had the MCC Plus 4’s on my 921’s and really liked them, so I just stuck with them. They also work pretty well with my sweaty hands and that was important to me. Are you going with black or were you thinking about a color to mix it up?
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I am down to the regular MCC in black/white or the MCC Teams in white/blue. Gotta have midsize and there are limited selections when ordering custom Mizuno through Golf Galaxy.
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I am down to the regular MCC in black/white or the MCC Teams in white/blue. Gotta have midsize and there are limited selections when ordering custom Mizuno through Golf Galaxy.
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I love blue, so that was my first choice, but I imagine the black/white grips would give it a clean look to go with the clean and classy heads. Can’t really go wrong either way.
[QUOTE=”russtopher, post: 10989169, member: 14253″]
That ferrule/grip combo?
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The grips are Golf Pride MCC + 4 Midsize in blue. The ferrule is the Mizuno “Icon” ferrule.
And shineys have arrived!!!
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And shineys have arrived!!!
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Sweet! When did you order?
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Sweet! When did you order?
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When pre-sale came out after I was able to hit them…so like September 23rd
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When pre-sale came out after I was able to hit them…so like September 23rd
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Wow. So if I order mine at my fitting tomorrow I might get them in less than 3 weeks. Sweet!! ??
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When pre-sale came out after I was able to hit them…so like September 23rd
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Thanks! Y’all are giving me hope! I’ve been trying to prepare myself for a long wait. Maybe it won’t be so bad after all!
I was shocked when they came today. I didn’t ask when I ordered and just assumed they be at least 8 weeks. In fact I set a reminder in my phone at the 8 week mark! ?. I was fitted Wednesday, Sept 21st. , so it was 15 days…
Need your help here guys, major life decision.
Any appreciable value of going 7-GW in the HMP, [B]then 5-6 in HM[/B]? Or splitting hairs here?
My goal is to maintain real world gaps in the longer irons, where they typically start to close up somewhat due to poor strike etc, so wondering if the HM will offer slight improvement.
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mizuno is crushing it with the turnaround time from order to fulfillment. wow!
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For sure. And to think we were a little nervous about putting in our orders for VC 2 weeks out.
Meanwhile at Mizuno
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I do not need them I do not need them they’re not the best fit there’s no pressing need shorter blades are coming I do not need them I do not need them I do not need them..
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Need your help here guys, major life decision.
Any appreciable value of going 7-GW in the HMP, [B]then 5-6 in HM[/B]? Or splitting hairs here?
My goal is to maintain real world gaps in the longer irons, where they typically start to close up somewhat due to poor strike etc, so wondering if the HM will offer slight improvement.
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I don’t have any hard data to provide, but for me, the HM was a little more forgiving than the HMP. On solid strikes, there was very little difference in carry distance. On mis-hits though, I lost more yardage with the HMP. I would think with longer clubs, the mis-hits would be more pronounced and the extra forgiveness of the HM would help a bit. Again, that’s just from my experience. Others may have a different opinions. Personally, if I was looking at the HMP, I would be considering the same thing and would probably go HM in the long irons and then 7 iron down in HMP.
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Two weeks! I waited 12 weeks for my 223’s…I ordered these the 21st and the came today. Prettiest irons I’ve ever owned: JPX 923 Hot Metal Pros, 2 up, +1/2” i110 Steel Fiber shafts…
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And shineys have arrived!!!
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Random question for you guys. Did you get any kind of shipping notice beforehand or did they just show up at your door?
Oh my. Those are purtyyyyyy!(y)
[QUOTE=”will, post: 10990944, member: 7159″]
Random question for you guys. Did you get any kind of shipping notice beforehand or did they just show up at your door?
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I got a shipping notice but did not order from Mizuno direct – had to go to a 3rd party to get the shaft I’m fitted into installed