While there is no denying that the P790 irons from TaylorMade practically revolutionized irons and brought the hollow body iron to the minds of a much broader audience than ever before, one could make the argument that besides that release, and the subsequent refresh of it under the same name, the options have left many wanting more. Once upon a time, not all that long ago, TaylorMade was at the forefront of creating entire iron lineups that not only performed but looked good too.
Well, perhaps we are about to see a return to form there from TMaG with this coming release announcement. The P790 will remain firmly in the lineup, but not only is there a “Sibling Rivalry” being introduced in the P770 which features the same design tech as its bigger beefier brother, but also two new fully forged players irons in the P7MC and P7MB. Not only does this hopefully open the door for TaylorMade to finally get on board with blending iron sets, but it is most definitely creating a flowing aesthetic throughout their irons, and boy do they look good.
While we don’t yet have all of the specifics yet, we do know enough to take a closer look at each of the models.
TaylorMade P770
With the marketing tagline of “Let the sibling rivalry begin”, you pretty much know what to expect with the P770’s. The P790 have been consistently one of the top selling irons on the market since their release, but the recent refresh left some of us wanting as even though a Ti version was released as well, they really didn’t offer anything breathtakingly new to set them apart from the original release. It would appear that TaylorMade has listened to the feedback.
The P770 is designed to essentially offer P790 performance through the same technologies but in a player’s profile. More compact heel to toe, less offset, and a thinner topline mark the aesthetic design features here, and you will also notice as we move to the other two releases there is a visual flow through all of the lines now.
At the forefront is a forged hollow body design featuring TaylorMade’s patented speed pocket as well as SpeedFoam application internally. This one is shaped for the player wanting something more compact, but still utilizes the forged wrap around face applied to a carbon steel frame that utilizes up to 46g of tungsten depending on the iron in hand. Internally, beyond the SpeedFoam there is a progressive “Inverted Cone Technology” that varies depending on the iron to improve the overall accuracy and ball speed retention.
What will be interesting to many is the P770 will play off of a 46° PW which might be tamer than most would anticipate. Hopefully, this has gone a long way to creating a more playable spin profile for a larger margin of golfers as the P790’s are notoriously low spin for many. With KBS Tour in 130g X or 120g S and Golf Pride Z-Grips as the stock offerings, it will be interesting to see how they are received.
TaylorMade P7MC and P7MB
In my humble opinion, these are the irons that are going to perk up the most ears and eyes, well maybe not the MB as much as the MC for us mere mortals, but still, a cohesive aesthetic release of players irons from TaylorMade has been a long time coming. Not only are these cohesive with each other in terms of design “geometry”, but also the previously discussed P770 which one could only hope means a chance at a true combo set makeup, time will tell how TaylorMade markets that, however.
These two are clearly the “Tour Inspired” profiles that they worked hand in hand with their PGA Tour staff to create. They both offer progressive offset blended with thin toplines and compact soles for the golfer who demands precision in all aspects. The P7MC is clearly going to offer more forgiveness than the P7MB since it has a cavity, but make no mistake these are both 100% player’s irons.
The new story here for TaylorMade is the fact that the 1025 carbon steel material, which these are made of, has been forged using a 2,000 ton press to make for what the company calls a “tighter, more compact grain structure” with the purpose of eliminating variances in the material and making more consistency in feel.
Both the P7MC and P7MB are based off of a 47° PW and as such should make the anti-loft-jackers rejoice, but realistically based on the designs it makes sense to have such traditional lofts. Like the P770’s, the stock offerings for both of these are also KBS Tour shafts in 130g X or 120g S paired with Golf Pride Z-Grips.
While we will most definitely have more on all three of these iron offerings to come, including pricing, the initial release information should garner some interest from those who have longed for TaylorMade to once again offer a more complete iron lineup for the more demanding golfers. What do you think about the trio of new irons? Love them? Leave them? Be sure to jump into the conversation with either a comment here or on the THP community and let yourself be heard!
I can’t tell out here in bad light on a phone, 770’s?
Oh sorry. Yes P770’s!
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You’ve gone through a goodly number of sets that haven’t worked.
To me they really are not much smaller at all than the 790 (which I had prior). Sound/feel wise though they are 100% improved but that is the most subjective thing in golf. I should grab some photos of the 790/770 side by side before I sell off the 790s.
I’m special. After todays round, I am seriously considering the most Super GI clubs I can find. NOTHING worked. But ultimately the 921 Tours are still my favorites so far. I just don’t know if they really beat the Cobras. I’m going to to but my old King Forged Tours in the bag this weekend and see how it goes.
Why switch if you love the Cobras so much? I mean, I know I do it because I have an addiction. ?
I used to play new irons about twice a year. Then the Cobras came into play. That was 3.5 years ago. I tried others, but nothing worth keeping. I think I’m at the point where I am struggling with the idea of keeping a set for that long.
Plus I have rebuilt my entire bag this year. It makes sense to me to go new.
Glad you are liking them. I guess…
I do like them. I love playing them. I just railed against the design not fitting with the 770 and MB, them being hard to hit, and not having anything to really separate them from other CB’s I have when they came out, …. and a guy only wants to eat so much crow!
It sticks in my teeth.
I’ve really enjoyed the combo, but it sounds like you’ve noticed exactly what the 770s have been for me. Little extra launch and ball speed, without getting low spin. It’s been really useful in the long irons, and less so in the short. I was combo’ing them between the 6 and 7, and have gone to the 5 and 6 lately just for preference on recent conditions. I played the full set of 770 for a bit though, well, and used them in a pretty big match without hesitation, so I try to remember that when I think about saying anything too bad about them. They’re pretty good on performance imo if you like or don’t mind the feel.
Never in my life had so much trouble hitting a target.
They are a nice iron, but the feel was much different from what I expected after really enjoying the 760’s.
YMMV….
the 770 was one of those irons that the first time i picked it up i knew i’d hate it. i tried to take a few swings but they were awful and i was over it. hit a few other irons so much better in that same session.
I’m with you on that, absolutely. I love the feel of the 760’s. I was hoping they would update them instead of making the 770’s.
Looking at the numbers more now. Circles were the shots with the P770 3i today (others are mixed clubs and older ones) in cold and soft conditions from mixed lies. 4 off the tee, 3 turf, shortest one was advancing to the corner on a par 5 from the right rough. That’s about as good as any 20* utility I’ve used out there. I tell myself I don’t love them, but then they seem to perform well, and then the data backs that feeling up. Every. Time.
I don’t think I have the speed for the 3i, but I really, really liked the 5i in that set. Felt like I hit it better than any other long iron I have, including much larger ones.
They get up and move for their overall size and especially the sole size. I stuck more eagle approaches with that 5i in the first 3 weeks with them than I had in the 2 months prior. The overall height and spin at that speed is just some kind of sweet zone. Fast, but lands like a 7 iron.
I’m sold. Just treated myself to a 770 3iron bent 1 degree strong. Santa said I’ve been good this year
I love AMT’s too, and just end up having to put them in myself. It is annoying when they don’t offer them.
So anyway, the P7MC’s really haven’t been for many people from everything I’ve heard, and I didn’t want them to be for me really.
They are though. I think about the MC (muscle cavity) name of them every time I’m out there, because they feel more like a muscle back than a cavity back. Weight behind the ball makes them feel so solid. It’s a very satisfying feel, and solid isn’t a word I normally use as a compliment. Crisp and solid with great feedback. They honestly remind me a little of my Rose Protos at impact. Anyway, net 73 today because of a drop, or they would have AGAIN played to cap. Something like a 75% rate if it had happened today, but closer to 2 out of 3 is impressive enough.
They’re not going anywhere, anytime soon. Big, big fan of these little clubs.
They’re not getting a lot of love here so far, but most people who have tried mine have had pretty good success with them and I’m still loving the long irons. That 3i and I are buddies.
Still no mb or mc to hit here, but I have this growing idea that I would love an mc/770 combo. I could even see adding in a p790 in the 4i or 3i slot.
I have some 7MB’s I need to pick up that I ordered ages ago, but I honestly I have no idea what I’m going to do with them. The MC’s are so good. Feel and numbers are just perfect for me. I don’t really see a need to go to a true blade at the end for no real reason other than look. I’ll probably just do some comparisons with them and then move them.
Yeah, they’re not getting a lot of play from what I can tell, but I’m not really surprised by that. The MC’s are definitely not everybody’s cup of tee. I’ve passed mine around a little recently and there was a lot of appreciation combined with no’s. lol
They’re similar in looks in ways. More offset than maybe expected (less on MC’s), more compact than most (more so with MC’s), taller heels and narrower soles than some, etc.
Feels though, MC is more solid and crisp. They are noticeably more demanding. I’ve said it from the first time I tried them before they came out, that they’re no joke. Muscle Cavity, not cavity back. They feel more like a blade, imo. X Forged is kind of other end on some things. Seems so much more modern with the cavity shape and weight placement. Sound is very good, but in a little different register, and you can feel that they won’t punish you the same.
Stability is a tough one for me on these two. I really like how I would describe that with the X Forged so far. Really like. I haven’t noticed any of the gear effects I don’t always love. Feels very stable to me. It’s hard to compare it to something as compact as the MC’s though, with they’re muscle shape on the back. I’d say they’re both really good for how I think of stability, which isn’t always the same as others. I had a weird thought about combo’ing the two of these the other day, that intrigues me, but I haven’t had a chance to dive into it yet.
I had a video at one point of the MC sound out on course. I’m playing in a bit, but I’ll look for it after. I cut one of the X Forged strikes but it didn’t do a good job of showing what it was like, so I’ll try another one in the future.
I had kind of chickened out on the shaft swap because the new Apex were coming, but now having seen and read more about the release I think I’m going to go ahead and do it this weekend. Will be last chance for clubwork for a bit so I better get to it.
Haven’t loved the sole transitions to my SM8’s at the gap wedge though, and have really enjoyed the MG2 in some other setups lately so, I think I’ll have to grab a steel finish 50* to go with them.
Oh, I thought it was you who gave me a mind blown recently when I said they weren’t going anywhere for a while. I thought maybe you had taken a turn on your opinion of them because you and your friend and been the lone TM buddies for a while. My bad.
Trying to think who that was now…
Maybe it is because I thought the idea of you committing was crazy.. haha. Or maybe I was thinking the P770s that I find feel really harsh.
I set up @tmarin802 with a combo set of of MC/MBs I think they are really good. Are they the best? I am not sure. I think personally like the x forged or X7s more. But I would have no argument for anyone that said the liked them. They are clean and classy.
I just have a small decision making disorder.
About this one aspect of my life.
Sometimes.
Oof. I do not know where my notes are from when I rebuilt my 770’s. They’ll get found in unpacking eventually. I weigh and measure everything though, and I don’t remember the head weights being outside the norm at all.
I put the amt tour white in there and I LOVE them. Great set of sticks, you won’t be disappointed.
I play the S300s in my P760s and I don’t really have any complaints. I’ve been very tempted to put a set of AMT white shafts in them but not sure that I’d like them. Do they provide a more balance weight?
They moved the weight around in the long irons. The long irons are lighter and the ball flight overall is slightly lower than the standard s300. With this tech I doubt the original s300 will be around much longer.