While there is no denying that the P790 irons from TaylorMade practically revolutionized irons and brought the hollow body iron to the minds of a much broader audience than ever before, one could make the argument that besides that release, and the subsequent refresh of it under the same name, the options have left many wanting more. Once upon a time, not all that long ago, TaylorMade was at the forefront of creating entire iron lineups that not only performed but looked good too.
Well, perhaps we are about to see a return to form there from TMaG with this coming release announcement. The P790 will remain firmly in the lineup, but not only is there a “Sibling Rivalry” being introduced in the P770 which features the same design tech as its bigger beefier brother, but also two new fully forged players irons in the P7MC and P7MB. Not only does this hopefully open the door for TaylorMade to finally get on board with blending iron sets, but it is most definitely creating a flowing aesthetic throughout their irons, and boy do they look good.
While we don’t yet have all of the specifics yet, we do know enough to take a closer look at each of the models.
TaylorMade P770
With the marketing tagline of “Let the sibling rivalry begin”, you pretty much know what to expect with the P770’s. The P790 have been consistently one of the top selling irons on the market since their release, but the recent refresh left some of us wanting as even though a Ti version was released as well, they really didn’t offer anything breathtakingly new to set them apart from the original release. It would appear that TaylorMade has listened to the feedback.
The P770 is designed to essentially offer P790 performance through the same technologies but in a player’s profile. More compact heel to toe, less offset, and a thinner topline mark the aesthetic design features here, and you will also notice as we move to the other two releases there is a visual flow through all of the lines now.
At the forefront is a forged hollow body design featuring TaylorMade’s patented speed pocket as well as SpeedFoam application internally. This one is shaped for the player wanting something more compact, but still utilizes the forged wrap around face applied to a carbon steel frame that utilizes up to 46g of tungsten depending on the iron in hand. Internally, beyond the SpeedFoam there is a progressive “Inverted Cone Technology” that varies depending on the iron to improve the overall accuracy and ball speed retention.
What will be interesting to many is the P770 will play off of a 46° PW which might be tamer than most would anticipate. Hopefully, this has gone a long way to creating a more playable spin profile for a larger margin of golfers as the P790’s are notoriously low spin for many. With KBS Tour in 130g X or 120g S and Golf Pride Z-Grips as the stock offerings, it will be interesting to see how they are received.
TaylorMade P7MC and P7MB
In my humble opinion, these are the irons that are going to perk up the most ears and eyes, well maybe not the MB as much as the MC for us mere mortals, but still, a cohesive aesthetic release of players irons from TaylorMade has been a long time coming. Not only are these cohesive with each other in terms of design “geometry”, but also the previously discussed P770 which one could only hope means a chance at a true combo set makeup, time will tell how TaylorMade markets that, however.
These two are clearly the “Tour Inspired” profiles that they worked hand in hand with their PGA Tour staff to create. They both offer progressive offset blended with thin toplines and compact soles for the golfer who demands precision in all aspects. The P7MC is clearly going to offer more forgiveness than the P7MB since it has a cavity, but make no mistake these are both 100% player’s irons.
The new story here for TaylorMade is the fact that the 1025 carbon steel material, which these are made of, has been forged using a 2,000 ton press to make for what the company calls a “tighter, more compact grain structure” with the purpose of eliminating variances in the material and making more consistency in feel.
Both the P7MC and P7MB are based off of a 47° PW and as such should make the anti-loft-jackers rejoice, but realistically based on the designs it makes sense to have such traditional lofts. Like the P770’s, the stock offerings for both of these are also KBS Tour shafts in 130g X or 120g S paired with Golf Pride Z-Grips.
While we will most definitely have more on all three of these iron offerings to come, including pricing, the initial release information should garner some interest from those who have longed for TaylorMade to once again offer a more complete iron lineup for the more demanding golfers. What do you think about the trio of new irons? Love them? Leave them? Be sure to jump into the conversation with either a comment here or on the THP community and let yourself be heard!
Interesting! Did you notice much of an adjustment switching to them?
they only adjustment I noticed was that I smile a lot more because I’m hitting more greens.
They can’t keep them on the shelves here either and I’ve had pretty big offers for my custom Arkansas-ish themed ones. Taylormade in general doesn’t get a lot of love on THP outside of some metals.
I thought I’d love them and bought them right away, but they just didn’t work out.
They are hands down the prettiest hollow bodies on the market IMO.
I did hit them when they first came out and I did like them but wasn’t ready to buy at the tile and when I was finally looking the lead time was like 12 plus weeks so I looked elsewhere. I really liked my p760’s and thinking back I really had a good year with them. I should never have moved them after one year. The success I had with them would have had my expectations really really high if I had gotten the 770’s. What was the reason they didn’t work out for you?
Do you still have your MC’s?
Want a hot take?
I think the P760 are better than the new P770.
Oh yeah. I love those things. I wish they had a slightly different combo option than the 770’s though, aesthetically. I’ve thought about throwing a 4 & 5 760 in with them.
And on cue! Or.. you posted first.
I loved the 760’s. I don’t think that’s too hot of a take. I think the 770’s are a great club for a lot of people, and the performance of them in the long irons has been great for me. I freaking love my 770 3i. But I wished from the beginning they would have just updated the 760’s.
And just like that I’m on the lookout for a clean set of p760’s
They certainly sound better. ?
And I seriously missed that P770 3i. That club is near perfection for me at that distance. Easy speed, easy to control compared to a utility, looks great over the ball. I need to work that back in. So good for what I try to do.
I’m going to put the 770’s up against my Apex Pros for some comparison. The 770’s don’t get a lot of love on THP, but they perform. The data will be interesting.
Looking back through the thread I’ve had a ton of success with them right from the start, and for that to continue after not playing them for a long time says a lot to me. They just suit. Small, solid, neutral cg, lots of feedback… I’m glad I’ve hung onto them.
That P770 did something (flew and held a driveable (loose term, near impossible) par 4) that a LOT of other clubs haven’t been able to do, too. Countless utilities and hybrids tried, and only the 770 3i has succeeded.
are these being moved to the ‘A’ bag?
No, but they’re back in ponder mode. Looking back through was revelatory. I knew and know I like them, but now I’m curious if I run the numbers if there’s a recent set I’ve actually scored better with overall than them. I mean, double digit differentials don’t come easy.
Haha, #’s don’t lie!
Later though. Clubwork first.
Just a couple pics of the black re-shafted and finished P7MC’s. They’re here to stay. 770 4i with them.
And for those who build and are considering or searching for info on the P7MC – keyword headweight
They were:
4i – 255.21g
5i – 261.08g
6i – 267.74g
7i – 273.45g
8i – 282.26g
9i – 290.50g
P – 297.77g
Little variation but nothing too weird, and on the heavier side.
Love the solid feel of them. It’s definitely a little unique to them. More blade-like sole is great in the turf, and they’re real compact, which I’m a huge fan of. I’m not sure I’d design one much different to suit me.
Any issues today were probably the ball. ?
The only issues were mine. Those MC’s are so solid. I love ’em. They did feel super weird with the divides though. That first one from the rough felt like a mishit. Like ‘wait.. what was that? Did I pound the ground?’. Lol
that low compression ball didn’t even know what hit it..
Back to the club.
The good:
– The feedback and feel is nice. I instantly know where I hit the ball on the clubface. Much better than the i200. This is helping me correct things during the round.
– The distance is about what I expected based on reviews. I picked up about a half a club length.
– If you are into this, the P770 are really good looking clubs both in the bag and at address.
– The turf interaction is better than I anticipated. It doesn’t dig or grab but I feel I can get in after balls that aren’t good lies.
Not sure:
– These clubs don’t want to put side spin on the ball. I have tried to work the ball a little left and right and it ends up going dead straight. This is true for mishits too where shots off the heel and toe don’t badly hook or slice. If you want to work the ball, you really have to exaggerate your swing motion.
The bad:
– While balls off center go the direction you are aiming, you lose significantly more distance than what I was used to with the i200.
– The stock shafts and grips are fine. They are pretty close to what I normally play but the 1/4" shorter length is really irritating. I was unaware that TaylorMade did this until after I had the clubs.
Takeaways:
– The ball I play had a bigger impact on launch angle and distance than the clubs. That really surprised me.
– I’m kind of "meh" on the clubs. I know people are used to "love them" or "hate them" reviews but I’m definitely in the middle. If you are a good ball striker looking for a little extra distance and have the few months of patience to wait for custom clubs, you might really like these. I have been golfing for a very long time and I have had two of my best shots of my life with these clubs paired with the tp5x but also a lot of disappointing ones with the proV1 and general distance variation based on strike location. I’m going to give it some time.
So, despite all that.. net -2. Besides loving the solid blade-like feel as always, I swear these heads must just be good luck or something. It’s absurd. Every round with them ends well. This is why I can never bring myself to even think of getting rid of them.
Not feeling great and wanted to change things up a bit, so brought the P7MC’s today. I will NEVER understand why I don’t hear about them more online. I constantly hear about stuff I just never see in the wild, but never hear about these here and DO actually see them. Because they’re freaking awesome. I can think of a bunch of blades, and a LOT of players cavity, that these best in feel and performance.
And the 770 long irons compete with anything similar. I’ve put them up against just about every other players hollow out there, they perform well. It’s not a great feel category by any manufacturer with what’s currently out, so I feel like it’s hard to really lose out based on that. I’m not sure if people just can’t picture a combo with them. I struggled with that. Hated the look of the MC’s compared to 770 and MB, and didn’t like how they were side by side. Performance of the MC’s has really trumped that for me. Anyone with blade dreams that can’t quite handle them, or wants a more solid feel, or small package with some forgiveness is doing themselves a disservice by not trying them. Long irons are compact narrow soled beauties, and the short irons pack a little more low mass and spin like a blade but with forgiveness. And the feel is addicting.
I’ll go back to the popular threads now.. ?
That they sound and feel better than TCB’s?
That they can be found cheaper now?
‘Cause all those things are true.
It has to be the 770, and the potential combo’s with it holding them back. There’s a good TM guy here, and he sells the heck out of that combo though. I only play the 4 (and the 3, some) but it’s basically interchangeable with the Apex Pro, and most people don’t seem to mind them. :confused2:
Fair points but do they have "tour" or "pro" in their name, or a flashy tech story, or limited release, or associated to any THP events [emoji848]
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Performance wise how do the compare to the TCB’s? I really liked the p760’s and would totally pick up another of of them and if the MC’s play similar I know I would like them. They do look better than the 760’s
You need to change the iron order in your signature lol
Hmm. Peformance against P760 is tough. I’ve never had them shafted the same and it’s been a bit on the P760 for me. I really liked them, and was hoping the 770 would be a more direct replacement, instead of the route they went. I think performance wise the MC’s would be fairly similar in the mid to short. 760, T100, JPX Tour ish, but better feel. The difference is in the long irons. 760/T100 would diverge quickly on size, tech, and forgiveness. The P7MC’s have a more traditional lack of progression there, like .. 620 CB? They’re skinny in the long irons. I’ve never been shy about cautioning people there, and I’m sure that’s why the sets aren’t as popular, because it makes sense for most to combo, and the combo is 770. I play them through the 5i. I like a spicy 4, but I also have blades with wider soles in the 5 and 4 than the MC’s. And the TCB’s definitely have a bigger cavity than the MC’s in the long irons. And then I think there’s a little more meat in the MC’s as you get to the shorts, but they’re both really compact.
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Performance against the TCB runs in to the same problem. No direct comparison. Both have distances for me typical to their lofts, good spin, etc. Forgiveness.. probably similar. Most who’ve tried my TCB’s haven’t found them overly easy. I have heavier and different shafts (KBS Tours) in my MC’s. I think I might do an MC re-shaft to really compare. I was thinking about it today before you asked. I have a hunch they’re going to be quite similar. I’m curious if the MC’s will actually launch a touch lower in the long and short irons though, with all things being equal.
New today talking about Colin’s change. Probably shows why love them, like I do ZX7, too. Quick in and out suits me and some tight courses here. Short irons are no great challenge compared to the long though.
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Looks bladey, feels more towards one, definitely NOT a blade. You can hear how good they feel on the first couple he hits with the MC’s.
Shafted to match my TCB’s. Let’s do this!!
Looking forward to seeing how they perform with the different shafts.
There is only one questionable choice in that bag lol.. Very very nice..
Working just fine.
How dare you talk about my mismatch wedge like that!!
Isn’t the wedges..
That club PERFORMS. That’s all that matters. Mostly. Lol
Heh …. I have the 410 version of that hybrid. It plays better than my Titleist hybrids, so, in the bag it goes. Only Ping club I’ve carried since the Eye 2s.
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Big change. They look GREAT. ? I assume you tested some 770s before buying?
Like most of my other iron purchases, Nope, complete blind buy lol
Haha
They will definitely be more forgiving. I’ll let you get your own feels for them, but I will add this – despite what some people seem to think if them, they were good enough for me take down a pro in a match with them when I had them, so they get a thumbs up from me.
instant winner for me
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