Just when you thought that with the Mavrik lineup and its three unique driver profiles Callaway might have totally nailed down the breadth of options for golfers, they hit you with something you never saw coming.
The return of the Big Bertha in the form of the B21 driver isn’t what is surprising, what is surprising however, is what is going on internally here. This is one that Callaway believes is totally unique to the market design-wise with its ability to mix a forgiving design with a low and forward CG. Yes, you read that right.
This article is going to focus on the release of the B21 driver, however for the first time in a long while Callaway is bringing a complete Big Bertha lineup to market, and there will be a subsequent piece up on THP pertaining to the fairways, hybrids, and irons.
Return of the Callaway RCH
Worth mentioning before we get into anything else is a bit of a shift for Callaway, not to anything new, but more back to their Big Bertha roots with the return of the RCH graphite shafts as a stock option for the entire B21 lineup.
Some of you have immediately hit that “huh?” face, so let me explain. In the 1990’s to the early 2000’s Callaway did a lot of in-house shaft R&D, and I mean a lot. The goal was creating the perfect shafts to compliment exactly what they wanted in their club designs, and while present day companies work with shaft manufacturers to either find a good fit from their catalogues or maybe make some tweaks here and there, the RCH was created by and for Callaway clubs. Some today will be screaming “made-for!” and you are right, literally made for their designs. Once upon a time there wasn’t the clamoring for after-market options like there is today, nor were shafts designed specifically for clubs frowned upon. Heck, those “made-for” RCH shafts were even used and won on Tour.
Why bring this back in an all new design? Simply put, Callaway wanted very specific things for the shafts in the B21 clubs, particularly the ability to have an active tip flex that would help achieve the dynamic lofts they wanted while also not feeling weak in the swing. For Callaway, the RCH is about being developed and not just picked. That said, for those of you wondering, yes, there will be a significant amount of no upcharge options available still.
Callaway B21 Driver
Price: $499.99
Lofts: 9°, 10.5°, 12.5° w/ Callaway OptiFit Adjustability
Shaft Options: Callaway RCH 45/55/65
Release Date: 9/10/2020
The B21 driver is being presented under the slogan, “Distance any way you swing it”, and based on the tech of the new Big Bertha driver, it should easily back that up. The B21 driver was designed around the reality that most golfers struggle through things like erratic impact locations, an open face angle at impact, and even swinging across the target line while also being steep into the ball. These are traditionally among the most demoralizing things in golf which result in a shot that is usually a weak high and right (for RH golfers) miss which can practically ruin the game for golfers of all skill levels. The goal of the B21 is to pack all of the technology Callaway has into a design that offers distance, forgiveness, and consistency no matter how you swing it.
The major preliminary focus was based around design features that would mitigate the issues so many golfers face with the driver given their swing faults. The reality is most who fit into the aforementioned faults often see significantly higher backspin averages creeping into the 3,000 to 4,000 RPM’s which not only affects control but also hampers ball and swing speed potential as the golfer falls into the trap of steering the ball. There has long been a search for the holy grail of slice reduction in drivers, but Callaway is taking the direction of countering each of these specific tendencies with design features that should free golfers up to enjoy the game more.
First thing first, the A.I. Flash Face is alive and present, not only that, it is by far the engine that is making this unicorn of a design possible. Flash Face with the Mavrik in particular allowed Callaway to see that they could move the CG of a driver low and forward to decrease spin while keeping forgiveness and ball speed through the A.I. face generation program. Usually going low and forward though is only for better players, kiss that idea goodbye.
The B21 is unique to the market in that it is using a low-forward CG in coordination with a huge face, a sub 10g T2C crown, and high-moi head shape which is longer and more triangular to protect ball speeds with impacts across the face. How this is possible though is solely because of A.I., the Flash Face SS21. Any time a new shape is created, a new Flash Face has to be generated that is optimized to just that face, so don’t think that this is the Mavrik’s pasted into the B21. In order to make the design which A.I. came up with work, a special heat treatment had to be used on the face to get it to be durable enough, combined with Jailbreak the internals of this club are pretty staggering and seeks to create a driver that offers low spin and draw bias.
That draw bias is being created through a few different methods. Externally, it is created through the reduced face progression which is the distance from the leading edge of the face and shaft axis. Fancy words to say that the hosel to head connection helps to create a flight that starts left without using the massive offset that is present in the rest of the B21 lineup. Internally, there is also weight placed in the heel to help cut down that spin that comes from an open face at impact.
Design wise, this is a bit of a head scratcher because it meshes things together which we never thought could be blended. There is a weight low and back in the head to increase the MOI even more with the triangular shape, but there is much more weight forward in the design to decrease spin and keep consistency. These are things that have historically been entirely contradictory in club design, but with the application of Flash Face SS21 the speed and forgiveness that previously had to be generated primarily with the shape and weight can now be done with the face.
The B21 driver is not going to be a driver that the golfer seeking the lowest spinning option from Callaway runs out and grabs. The reality is it won’t be as low spin as a Sub-Zero, nor should it be, but it will offer lower spin potential than other designs while still having draw bias, a middle-ground so-to-speak. While some will be curious of the comparisons to the Mavrik Max, this has potentially lower spin while having increased draw bias and both drivers can easily coexist in the market.
The Callaway Big Bertha B21 driver is looking to set a new standard when it comes to correcting the biggest miss in golf. What are your initial thoughts and reactions? Do you plan on giving one a swing? Be sure to jump into the conversation both here as well as the THP forum and let your voice be heard!
[QUOTE=”Cinco, post: 9807411, member: 57776″]
Hoping this club can help me. I’m actually an in to out swinger, but sometimes my face is open to the path, and I block or fade one out right.
Just wondering if it will overcook my draw. Got one on order from the marketplace and will be putting it up against my standard Mav.
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I think it’ll surprise you, if you leave that face open, the way this one keeps the spin down is going to make you laugh hysterically.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 9808338, member: 1579″]
I think it’ll surprise you, if you leave that face open, the way this one keeps the spin down is going to make you laugh hysterically.
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Sounds like the unicorn club I’m looking for. It’s funny watching the reviews online. Everyone is like, “I’m going to review this but I know it’s not the club for me”, then each one of those reviewers proceed to knock the snot out of the ball down the middle.
I have no problem using a “game improvement” driver, if it improves my game.
Since I moved onto a golf course I am about to have the longest I have ever gone with no swings. 9 days as of today and it looks like this now with 6-9 more inches on the way and a long line of highs in the 20’s in the forecast. Where is global warming when you need it? Somebody tell me something good about the golf they have been able to play.[ATTACH type=”full”]8993495[/ATTACH]
[QUOTE=”Cinco, post: 9808369, member: 57776″]
Sounds like the unicorn club I’m looking for. It’s funny watching the reviews online. Everyone is like, “I’m going to review this but I know it’s not the club for me”, then each one of those reviewers proceed to knock the snot out of the ball down the middle.
I have no problem using a “game improvement” driver, if it improves my game.
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Yup. A lot of preconceptions around this one, and I was one before reviewing it myself, but it’s a true unicorn. Non traditional shape is literally the only knock a lot of people can muster for it, but I don’t mind the shape at all.
[QUOTE=”baylrballa, post: 9798353, member: 52381″]
any thoughts as to when these start popping up on CPO?
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Usually with their January released we start seeing them on CPO around Sept/Oct.
this dropped in Sept 2020 so perhaps around May on CPO ??
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 9808397, member: 1579″]
Yup. A lot of preconceptions around this one, and I was one before reviewing it myself, but it’s a true unicorn. Non traditional shape is literally the only knock a lot of people can muster for it, but I don’t mind the shape at all.
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I’d argue the shape is what makes me want to try this one again. I kinda like the triangular shape this one has and the Fusion before that. Inspires confidence for me.
[QUOTE=”erock9174, post: 9808431, member: 7797″]
I’d argue the shape is what makes me want to try this one again. I kinda like the triangular shape this one has and the Fusion before that. Inspires confidence for me.
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Not saying it doesn’t for some, but it has been the biggest “sticking point” for the 30-40 people I’ve let hit mine as well as the almighty internet golfer crowd. :ROFLMAO:
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 9808437, member: 1579″]
Not saying it doesn’t for some, but it has been the biggest “sticking point” for the 30-40 people I’ve let hit mine as well as the almighty internet golfer crowd. :ROFLMAO:
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I could see that. It’s not traditional for sure. Great to have options. I’m just thinking since I’m not a high spin guy this one might not be the best fit unless I went 12*. After working on my AoA, Was hoping to get into a 10.5 this year lofted up a little. As I get more ball speed with a 10.5 lofted up than I do with a 12* head.
The shape on the B21 doesn’t bother me at all. Callaway did a good job masking the triangular shape IMHO. I handed down my Fusion to my son, so I still have it around. Here is a comparison, with the B21 on the left, Fusion on the right. The Fusion is much more pronounced to me.
Also, in terms of launch, despite the low spin, I found the B21 high launching. So much so that I returned the 10.5* to Callaway and dropped down to the 9*. Not that I am playing any golf at the moment with snow on the ground, but I have had no issue with launching the 9* at all. YMMV.[ATTACH type=”full”]8993501[/ATTACH]
[QUOTE=”erock9174, post: 9808443, member: 7797″]
I could see that. It’s not traditional for sure. Great to have options. I’m just thinking since I’m not a high spin guy this one might not be the best fit unless I went 12*. After working on my AoA, Was hoping to get into a 10.5 this year lofted up a little. As I get more ball speed with a 10.5 lofted up than I do with a 12* head.
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Even at 12, it’s going to be low spin. This is lower spinning than the Mav and Mav Max remember. It’s actually quite close to the Sub Zero.
I’ll echo what others are saying, the shape never jumped out to me as odd and I’ve played a fair number of different drivers over the years.
[QUOTE=”jeffrey r, post: 9808505, member: 1396″]
The shape on the B21 doesn’t bother me at all. Callaway did a good job masking the triangular shape IMHO. I handed down my Fusion to my son, so I still have it around. Here is a comparison, with the B21 on the left, Fusion on the right. The Fusion is much more pronounced to me.
Also, in terms of launch, despite the low spin, I found the B21 high launching. So much so that I returned the 10.5* to Callaway and dropped down to the 9*. Not that I am playing any golf at the moment with snow on the ground, but I have had no issue with launching the 9* at all. YMMV.[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”CC96561E-82D7-44CE-BF7E-FA859F302AA0.jpeg”]8993501[/ATTACH]
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It’s definitely a launcher, maybe the best I’ve ever hit in terms of launch for a low spin head. I play my 9 turned down, so you’re not seeing anything out of the norm.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 9808521, member: 1579″]
Even at 12, it’s going to be low spin. This is lower spinning than the Mav and Mav Max remember. It’s actually quite close to the Sub Zero.
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Gotcha. Might not be for me then. I was only seeing 2200 out of the Epic Max 10.5 lofted at 12.5.
[QUOTE=”erock9174, post: 9808578, member: 7797″]
Gotcha. Might not be for me then. I was only seeing 2200 out of the Epic Max 10.5 lofted at 12.5.
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A ton of members here who have been fit into the Max and found good spin numbers have seen what several of us have been preaching in here for months, this is a much lower spinning head, it’s a low forward center of gravity and plays as such, but with all the forgiveness of the Max. It’s a unicorn.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 9808599, member: 1579″]
A ton of members here who have been fit into the Max and found good spin numbers have seen what several of us have been preaching in here for months, this is a much lower spinning head, it’s a low forward center of gravity and plays as such, but with all the forgiveness of the Max. It’s a unicorn.
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And all the while, reducing sidespin as well. It truly is a unicorn, that will inevitably get lost in the shuffle of all of the new releases. That said, I have been demoing the Epic Max and Max LS, and those are fantastic also. I will give those a run. May the best head win.
[QUOTE=”jeffrey r, post: 9808611, member: 1396″]
And all the while, reducing sidespin as well. It truly is a unicorn, that will inevitably get lost in the shuffle of all of the new releases. That said, I have been demoing the Epic Max and Max LS, and those are fantastic also. I will give those a run. May the best head win.
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To be fair, it has sold extremely well, and fitters love it.
Weather and timing have been off for me since I’ve gotten it. I’ve only had this driver out for 9 holes and I’m itching to get out and hit it more. What I did see was really nice and I REALLY want to get out and hit it more. I might have to take it to the driving range sometime this week just to scratch that itch.
I have read several reviews that this driver has a slight closed face, question, is it possible to get rid of the closed face with the hosel adjustment. I like the driver but I really don’t care much for the closed face look.
[QUOTE=”buckeyewalt, post: 9817182, member: 7203″]
I have read several reviews that this driver has a slight closed face, question, is it possible to get rid of the closed face with the hosel adjustment. I like the driver but I really don’t care much for the closed face look.
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I find it to be a fairly neutral face, not closed. I guess you could get a 10.5° head, if you adjust loft stronger it should open the face a bit.
[QUOTE=”lefty1978, post: 9817223, member: 60398″]
I find it to be a fairly neutral face, not closed. I guess you could get a 10.5° head, if you adjust loft stronger it should open the face a bit.
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I concur. I just looked at my B21 9* set at +1/N, and it looks only the slightest bit closed perhaps. Set it at standard loft, or -1, and it should be neutral to slightly open.
[QUOTE=”jeffrey r, post: 9817269, member: 1396″]
I concur. I just looked at my B21 9* set at +1/N, and it looks only the slightest bit closed perhaps. Set it at standard loft, or -1, and it should be neutral to slightly open.
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Pretty darn neutral
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So would a 10.5* head need to be set open for it to be square, if so, how would that affect the flight? Would it be more prone to a fade?
[QUOTE=”buckeyewalt, post: 9817379, member: 7203″]
So would a 10.5* head need to be set open for it to be square, if so, how would that affect the flight? Would it be more prone to a fade?
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That picture above is the 10.5 head at neutral
I bit the bullet and got a BB 10.5 blind. Going to be in FL. in 9 days so I thought it would be a perfect time to get used to it. I had a bunch of credits a GG so I thought why not.
This is my first Callaway driver in 4 years, so I really don’t know what to expect, that’s why all of the reading of reviews and what not. It’s not the draw bias that made me look at the club(although that doesn’t hurt), it was the clean look on the crown with the alignment aid/red line. I also like the sound better than most that I’ve heard on some YouTube reviews.
Still keeping my G400MAX though.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 9808620, member: 1579″]
To be fair, it has sold extremely well, and fitters love it.
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I was wondering how it was doing in stores and even more about how much fitters are going to it. This is good to hear. I would assume they like options a lot. This is definitely a different option than everything else.
[QUOTE=”buckeyewalt, post: 9817454, member: 7203″]
I bit the bullet and got a BB 10.5 blind. Going to be in FL. in 9 days so I thought it would be a perfect time to get used to it. I had a bunch of credits a GG so I thought why not.
This is my first Callaway driver in 4 years, so I really don’t know what to expect, that’s why all of the reading of reviews and what not. It’s not the draw bias that made me look at the club(although that doesn’t hurt), it was the clean look on the crown with the alignment aid/red line. I also like the sound better than most that I’ve heard on some YouTube reviews.
Still keeping my G400MAX though.
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Best of luck with the B21. I’ll be in hearing how it works out. I’m going to hit this driver before my season starts to see how it performs for me.
I got one on the way not sure when I’ll have a chance to try it but I’ll let you all know I like trying something different
TXG you tube channel did a review on draw biased drivers recently. I cannot believe they did not include this driver but put in the new Epic max as Callaway’s draw driver. I do not know what these guys were thinking. I actually went back on there channel and found the original B21 review they did and it basically just brushed the driver off for something that only the 5 times a year player would use, when in reality its something a lot of club golfers would get benefit from. Then they say in the review the Epic was the most neutral flight of the drivers they tested. Just annoyed really, would have loved to have seen how this driver would compare to the other companies max draw designed offerings.
[QUOTE=”Lefty JB, post: 9817740, member: 61110″]
TXG you tube channel did a review on draw biased drivers recently. I cannot believe they did not include this driver
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I saw that video by TXG and thought the same, but I’m not shocked. I think Callaway did a bad job marketing this driver as game improvement only. Basically only thought of as an anti slice driver for hacks. Apparently it hasn’t hurt their sales, so who knows.
[QUOTE=”lefty1978, post: 9818004, member: 60398″]
I saw that video by TXG and thought the same, but I’m not shocked. I think Callaway did a bad job marketing this driver as game improvement only. Basically only thought of as an anti slice driver for hacks. Apparently it hasn’t hurt their sales, so who knows.
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That was my thought basically more so than the anti slice properties. I’m usually not a slicer but a leaker, so anything that could help would be welcome.
I did see several videos on the B21 and frankly was impressed not only with the performance but the looks.
[QUOTE=”TCB2010, post: 9818072, member: 23995″]
When you say it, it sounds differently than I say it, I get different results.
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Not exactly sure what you are saying there.
Just got a head from [USER=54075]@Fathead1911[/USER]. Lofted down to 9.5. I’m an in to out swinger and normally hit a small draw or block it out to the right. Was impressed with this club. With 102 CHS I was getting >150 Ball speed and I hit 80% of my drives down the middle with a baby draw. I was worried I would overcook the draw, but I only did when I made a bad swing, which would happen with my Mavrik Standard head as well. I was suprised at how forgiving the club was. The only issue I have was that it seemed the spin was not as low as I thought it would be, but I was using a Golfzon simulator. I’m going to a trackman simulator on Thursday to hash it out head to head against my standard Mavrik.
Any comparisons to the g400 max?
[QUOTE=”Karl, post: 9823171, member: 22697″]Any comparisons to the g400 max?[/QUOTE]I’ve only hit the G425 max, and I couldn’t hit it at all. Not sure if it was the heavy head and the CB shaft but I had difficulty. I also hit the G425 LST and I hit that better but still couldn’t get a consistent strike. That was with a RIPx shaft that I hit great with on the other driver heads. For me, the Callaway heads had the highest speed… the B21, Mavrik standard and Epic Speed LS.
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If I got one of these I would cut it down an inch. Then I would be concerned about adding weight to the head would add too much spin. Not sure how that would work.
I think before I cut down the shaft and add weight, I would hit/play it before I made any changes. Who knows, maybe the standard set-up is ideal.
[QUOTE=”Karl, post: 9823741, member: 22697″]
If I got one of these I would cut it down an inch. Then I would be concerned about adding weight to the head would add too much spin. Not sure how that would work.
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I wouldn’t worry too much about adding more spin. Look at it this way, the more weight in the back of the head, the more forgiving the head gets. Plus, you would lose what, 6 SW points by cutting down an inch? That would go from D2 for example to the C’s, and that is too light for a lot of folks. I have a bunch of Callaway weights around from the Rogue/Mavrik days, so I have been able to dial in SW with the B21 when trying out different shafts. And I’ll point out, I have found, at least in my case, that this head kind of gets going with a stiffer shaft and right around D2/D3 SW. YMMV.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 9817281, member: 3″]
Pretty darn neutral
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Could there be any variance in how you grip the club, or in the device set up you show that could cause the slight closed face?
[QUOTE=”tommyhaka, post: 9823813, member: 25723″]
Could there be any variance in how you grip the club, or in the device set up you show that could cause the slight closed face?
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Not really. We sole the club and the shaft slides into a bracket that lines it up. All we are doing is measuring face angle.
In pictures that people take. Sure. Happens all of the time. See the PING G425 thread.
This is totally unscientific but I had my best strikes when I closed the face a slightly at address. I also lofted down from 10.5 to 9.5 because I was concerned with my normal draw flight, that I would overcook my draws and I thought a slighly open face would be helpful, but I ended up negating that a little by addressing it closed because it didn’t seem to overcook my ball flights and for my swing, it started me on the right path.
So I have found the kryptonite for the B21…..20-30mph crosswinds! My FIR % wasn’t good today, but a lot of drives went straight for about 200 yds, then hit a wall of cross wind and ended up in the rough :ROFLMAO:. I did however, hit my two longest drives today, one about 295, and one that rolled out to 330! I’m finding myself in positions that are requiring second shots that I haven’t worked on in a long time. I love this thing!
[QUOTE=”Karl, post: 9823741, member: 22697″]
If I got one of these I would cut it down an inch. Then I would be concerned about adding weight to the head would add too much spin. Not sure how that would work.
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I cut mine down to 44.25, and didnt add any weight to the head. I can still feel the head and I even still choke down a little bit. I am still hitting the ball better (and longer) than my previous driver (Ping G410 SFT) and more accurate as well.
[QUOTE=”Karl, post: 9823741, member: 22697″]
If I got one of these I would cut it down an inch. Then I would be concerned about adding weight to the head would add too much spin. Not sure how that would work.
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I play mine at 44.5″ and I got a 12g weight to replace the 5g standard. It is high launching a lowish spinning still. It’s a carry monster.
[QUOTE=”Karl, post: 9823741, member: 22697″]
If I got one of these I would cut it down an inch. Then I would be concerned about adding weight to the head would add too much spin. Not sure how that would work.
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I play mine at 44.75 with a heavier weight in the back, it’s not enough weight to alter spin, just swing weight.
So with the draw bias, is it harder to work the ball both ways? Do you wish the weighting was neutral?
[QUOTE=”Karl, post: 9825085, member: 22697″]
So with the draw bias, is it harder to work the ball both ways? Do you wish the weighting was neutral?
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I mean, if the weighting was neutral it’d basically be a sub zero, so nah.
As for working it, the point of this one is to help golfers eliminate the main miss for am’s, so it’s not really one that most are going to try that. Can I still hit a cut? Sure. But when I’m playing this one I’m trying to tame that left to right movement.
[QUOTE=”buckeyewalt, post: 9817454, member: 7203″]
I bit the bullet and got a BB 10.5 blind. Going to be in FL. in 9 days so I thought it would be a perfect time to get used to it. I had a bunch of credits a GG so I thought why not.
This is my first Callaway driver in 4 years, so I really don’t know what to expect, that’s why all of the reading of reviews and what not. It’s not the draw bias that made me look at the club(although that doesn’t hurt), it was the clean look on the crown with the alignment aid/red line. I also like the sound better than most that I’ve heard on some YouTube reviews.
Still keeping my G400MAX though.
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Welp, my driver is officially “lost” in the mail system somewhere. I got expedited shipping from GG since we are leaving this weekend..got a tracking number..and no movement out of Raleigh NC, but it does say it will be late with no time frame, however, even the post office has no idea where it’s at other than it’s somewhere in the system. This is not a bash the post office post, but it’s just frustrating.
[QUOTE=”buckeyewalt, post: 9825375, member: 7203″]
Welp, my driver is officially “lost” in the mail system somewhere. I got expedited shipping from GG since we are leaving this weekend..got a tracking number..and no movement out of Raleigh NC, but it does say it will be late with no time frame, however, even the post office has no idea where it’s at other than it’s somewhere in the system. This is not a bash the post office post, but it’s just frustrating.
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I had a similar problem with a cymbal I bought for my drumset shipped priority mail around Christmas. It sat in a mail processing facility in New Hampshire for like 10 days and then showed up on my doorstep out of the blue 2 weeks later than I expected it.
[QUOTE=”gmiller598, post: 9825453, member: 24338″]
I had a similar problem with a cymbal I bought for my drumset shipped priority mail around Christmas. It sat in a mail processing facility in New Hampshire for like 10 days and then showed up on my doorstep out of the blue 2 weeks later than I expected it.
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Yep about the same thing. Problem is that if I’m not here to accept it, they can’t forward it to where I’m staying in FL., my order get shipped back to the shipper (GG) and then I have to reorder it again. PITA!
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 9824772, member: 1579″]
I play mine at 44.75 with a heavier weight in the back, it’s not enough weight to alter spin, just swing weight.
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Heavier weight in the back can help influence a more positive AoA as well.