Cobra Golf took a step that no other major OEM had yet to do back in the fall when they released a full-on 3D printed putter. The Cobra King SuperSport-35 putter had such a unique tech story behind it, which made it stand out against practically every putter that could be found in today’s marketplace. There was so much excitement around this putter and how it was crafted that it left golf fans asking one common question: When is Cobra Golf going to expand this lineup and enter the putter arena? That answer is now. With much excitement, today is the day that Cobra Golf takes that next step and releases not just one putter lineup, but two with their new KING 3D Printed Series and KING Vintage putters.
“We’re extremely excited to launch our new family of 3D printed putters, continuing our partnership with HP, utilizing their Metal Jet Technology to innovate and transform the way golf equipment is manufactured through the use of 3D printing, an extremely effective process in the design and development of our new putter line,” said Jose Miraflor, VP Marketing & Product Architecture, Cobra Golf. “We are extremely excited for golfers to try our new 3D printed putters, while each is unique, they all deliver advanced stability, forgiveness, and roll performance that will make putting easier for golfers of all levels.”
King 3D Printed putters are very eye-popping with a style that is very “techie.” Their looks are not deceiving because there is a lot of technology found in these models. These putters are the fruits of the labor that comes from a multi-year collaboration between Cobra and HP. Making a shift from the Metal Jet 3D Printing that was heavily touted for the SuperSport-35, the focus was pushed to Multi-Jet(Nylon) printing. Cobra engineers can save an incredible amount of weight by creating these intricate nylon cartridges throughout this line. With weight savings from non-traditional locations, discretionary weight can be positioned in areas that allow all 3D Printed Putters to feature extremely high MOI properties. Pairing with the nylon lattices, all of the putters inside this series will feature a multi-material construction that consists of a steel chassis, forged aluminum crown, tungsten weights, and a SIK Face Insert.
SIK Golf makes milled putters that offer Descending Loft Technology. You may recognize the name from the success that Bryson DeChambeau has had with his putter. For both the 3D Printed and Vintage Putters, Cobra partnered with SIK to create an aluminum insert that takes advantage of their DST, not only in weight savings but how these inserts affect the roll of the ball. One of the big stories for both of these putter lines is consistent launch angles, and that is where this insert comes into play. How DST works is the insert is sectioned off horizontally in quarters. The top portion of the putter has 4° of loft, which descends by 1 degree in each section so that the bottom has only 1 degree of loft. Players all have different putter strokes, some with a descending blow (higher contact) and others with an ascending blow (lower touch). When hitting down on the ball with the putter, more loft is needed to get the ball out of its slight depression and rolling quickly. Those who have an ascending strike come into the ball with added loft, therefore taking advantage of the part of the insert that has the lowest amount of loft found on the insert. With the help of this SIK insert, golfers will obtain more consistency in both launch and distance control.
Within the KING 3D Putter family are three main head styles, the GrandSport-35, SuperNova, and Agera. These general shapes won’t come off as anything unseen before, but with the new multi-material aspect to them, they boast higher MOI properties than their main competitors. The GrandSport-35 is the most traditional blade offering of the group, with SuperNova and Agera join the highly competitive mallet market. For those interested in an arm lock putter, the Agera and Grandsport-35 will be available with a 41″ shaft length. Due to that stroke type that comes with an arm lock stroke, the SIK insert had to carry more loft. Therefore, instead of the top section starting at 4° of loft, it will have 7° and descends to 4° at the very bottom.
KING 3D Printed Models and Specs
Price for all KING 3D Printed Putters is $349
When it comes to the Vintage Putters, the build is much more traditional with both its shapes and materials. While there is no 3D printing utilized within these models, we do get a more mainstream look that will cater to those who find the KING 3D Printed models too extreme. Along with the classic shapes comes simple alignment lines and an adjustable weighting system. As mentioned earlier, these putters also have the SIK aluminum insert. Therefore, even if you choose to pass on the 3D models, you are still looking at a putter that still offers consistent launch characteristics.
Cobra’s Vintage putters offer four different shapes, with two neck options for all but the Torino. Before introducing each model, note that the number after each name signifies how much toe hang is present. The Vintage Sport-45 model is Cobra’s take on perhaps the most iconic putter shape of all-time, a plumbers neck anser, which also comes in a Sport-60 model with a slant neck. Torino presents a classic rounded mallet shape, while the Nova models carry a popular fang design. For the final model, the Stingray will suit the golfer looking for the most forgiving member of the Vintage line.
KING Vintage Models and Specs
Price for all KING Vintage Series putters is $249
Both families of the Cobra King Putters will feature a custom Lamkin SinkFit Straight grip, which plays more like a midsize putter grip. Fans of Cobra will undoubtedly recognize that Cobra Connect comes as a stock option for these putters, meaning you can track your putting statistics just as easily as you can with every other club in the Cobra arsenal. Putter shafts have become a more significant part of the conversation in recent years. Cobra has decided to go with a KBS CT Tour Stepless Steel shaft for all of their models, therefore committing to high-end components throughout the entire package.
Cobra Golf has decided that now is the right time to push their innovations to the putter market, and just like many of their offerings, there is one heck of a tech story to be told. These putters should quickly grab some attention between the inclusion of 3D printed parts, a SIK putter insert, and boosted MOI designs. The entire line of putters is available for pre-order today and will hit retail stores on June 4, 2021.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 11119938, member: 62865″]
You’ve seen me rave ad nauseum about the Supernova. It’s such a stable platform for me. If you hold off till mid-March you can take mine for a test drive sometime. I’m a little hesitant to send the current gamer out before that lest [USER=3]@JB[/USER] gets on me for not practicing my putting through the winter 😉
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Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind!
From a looks and tech perspective it’s intriguing. Plus the reviews here have been glowing. Really cool to see a new player in the putter game come out swinging.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 11119938, member: 62865″]
You’ve seen me rave ad nauseum about the Supernova. It’s such a stable platform for me. If you hold off till mid-March you can take mine for a test drive sometime. I’m a little hesitant to send the current gamer out before that lest [USER=3]@JB[/USER] gets on me for not practicing my putting through the winter 😉
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Captain of the people. You go with anything you would like
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11120005, member: 3″]
Captain of the people. You go with anything you would like
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I have no idea whether to laugh or eye roll at that one.
Regardless, the Supernova is a stellar putter.
Man the heel toe weighting is striking to me.
Heel weight feels noticably better, but everything goes right.
Toe weight feels fair, but not as good. But roll and line seem better.
Might just go back to stock, split the difference.
[QUOTE=”baylrballa, post: 11145683, member: 52381″]
Man the heel toe weighting is striking to me.
Heel weight feels noticably better, but everything goes right.
Toe weight feels fair, but not as good. But roll and line seem better.
Might just go back to stock, split the difference.
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Are you trying to match the weights to align to your stroke similar to how someone would use the head style (toe hang, face balanced etc) ?
[QUOTE=”baylrballa, post: 11145683, member: 52381″]
Man the heel toe weighting is striking to me.
Heel weight feels noticably better, but everything goes right.
Toe weight feels fair, but not as good. But roll and line seem better.
Might just go back to stock, split the difference.
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Do you have a Blast Motion? It would be cool to see your closure vary with the weight change
[QUOTE=”gkeller813, post: 11119740, member: 51675″]
I think the Agera because its the one ive rolled, although the Supernova has my eye too.
Either way a mallet to try something different than my wide blade, would be the direction I go.
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I’ve got the Agera and absolutely love it. I was a pretty good putter with my old one before getting the Agera but started making more putts once I got it. For the first month I felt like I was making everything within 10 ft. and most of them from 20 ft. I may be getting one for my dad for Christmas.
[QUOTE=”GoDawgs#LRB, post: 11145825, member: 55623″]
I’ve got the Agera and absolutely love it. I was a pretty good putter with my old one before getting the Agera but started making more putts once I got it. For the first month I felt like I was making everything within 10 ft. and most of them from 20 ft. I may be getting one for my dad for Christmas.
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I too feel like I keep putting better and better with my Agera. I flirted with the notion of a Cuda. But then I rip off a three birdie round. And others where I seem to make all the 6-12 footers.
The Agera and the Supernova are just such stable platforms with the 3d printing tech. Put the DLT on top of that and I challenge anyone to find a more tech heavy putter at that price point, maybe at any price point.
[QUOTE=”mtbloco, post: 11145815, member: 53632″]
Do you have a Blast Motion? It would be cool to see your closure vary with the weight change
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I might have to do that this winter, or send mine to [USER=52381]@baylrballa[/USER] to play with for a bit.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 11145845, member: 62865″]
I might have to do that this winter, or send mine to [USER=52381]@baylrballa[/USER] to play with for a bit.
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I was going to say I have one to….for science!!
[QUOTE=”mtbloco, post: 11145815, member: 53632″]
Do you have a Blast Motion? It would be cool to see your closure vary with the weight change
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I do. Hmmm:unsure:
[QUOTE=”baylrballa, post: 11145862, member: 52381″]
I do. Hmmm:unsure:
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[QUOTE=”mtbloco, post: 11145833, member: 53632″]
I too feel like I keep putting better and better with my Agera. I flirted with the notion of a Cuda. But then I rip off a three birdie round. And others where I seem to make all the 6-12 footers.
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It’s weird, I loved the Agera when I had to choose a putter. While waiting for it, I rolled the Grandsport (PGASS didn’t have the Agera in stock sadly) and I just kept putting better with it. I feel bad for it, it got like 2 weeks of action before I benched it and haven’t looked back since 🙁
[QUOTE=”MWard, post: 11145953, member: 3474″]
It’s weird, I loved the Agera when I had to choose a putter. While waiting for it, I rolled the Grandsport (PGASS didn’t have the Agera in stock sadly) and I just kept putting better with it. I feel bad for it, it got like 2 weeks of action before I benched it and haven’t looked back since 🙁
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Everyone is different. That’s why Cobra makes options.
I have a wrist lock grip waiting to get installed on something.
[QUOTE=”mtbloco, post: 11145966, member: 53632″]
Everyone is different. That’s why Cobra makes options.
I have a wrist lock grip waiting to get installed on something.
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I almost regret trying something else while waiting, but also, no I don’t lol. My lag putting was better with the Agera but I made nothing. I made more with the GS, but the lag putting isn’t quite as good. It was a stupid difficult decision to make.
[QUOTE=”MWard, post: 11145970, member: 3474″]
I almost regret trying something else while waiting, but also, no I don’t lol. My lag putting was better with the Agera but I made nothing. I made more with the GS, but the lag putting isn’t quite as good. It was a stupid difficult decision to make.
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Two putter bag!
[QUOTE=”mtbloco, post: 11145975, member: 53632″]
Two putter bag!
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Many a time I’ve been like wow I wish I had the other putter right now, with many four letter words following it
[QUOTE=”MWard, post: 11145979, member: 3474″]
Many a time I’ve been like wow I wish I had the other putter right now, with many four letter words following it
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Clearly you over think. Just carry both.
[QUOTE=”mtbloco, post: 11145984, member: 53632″]
Clearly you over think. Just carry both.
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What club do you drop then? So many choices, yet they’re all eventually useful
[QUOTE=”MWard, post: 11145988, member: 3474″]
What club do you drop then? So many choices, yet they’re all eventually useful
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3w
[QUOTE=”MWard, post: 11145988, member: 3474″]
What club do you drop then? So many choices, yet they’re all eventually useful
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If you do it, combine spots 2 and 3 in your bag is how I would do it.
[QUOTE=”MWard, post: 11145988, member: 3474″]
What club do you drop then? So many choices, yet they’re all eventually useful
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Me??? We’re talking about you. I love my one putter.
[QUOTE=”baylrballa, post: 11145989, member: 52381″]
3w
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This is the answer BTW.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 11145990, member: 62865″]
If you do it, combine spots 2 and 3 in your bag is how I would do it.
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[QUOTE=”mtbloco, post: 11145991, member: 53632″]
Me??? We’re talking about you. I love my one putter.
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I feel like two putters in the bag is a sign that I have no idea what I’m actually doing, which is accurate. My clubs gap nicely, so the only bootable club is the 58. I’ll stab someone if they make me take that out, I just had the 54/58 ground down to give me more heel and toe relief and it’s absurd how much better I control it around the greens. The heel doesn’t seem to dig as much, and it’s gross how much spin i picked up when the leading edge is a little lower (for me)
[QUOTE=”MWard, post: 11145997, member: 3474″]
I feel like two putters in the bag is a sign that I have no idea what I’m actually doing, which is accurate. My clubs gap nicely, so the only bootable club is the 58. I’ll stab someone if they make me take that out, I just had the 54/58 ground down to give me more heel and toe relief and it’s absurd how much better I control it around the greens. The heel doesn’t seem to dig as much, and it’s gross how much spin i picked up when the leading edge is a little lower (for me)
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Then remove your driver.
[QUOTE=”mtbloco, post: 11146002, member: 53632″]
Then remove your driver.
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I think I’m good there, I don’t hit it far enough or accurate enough to make up for that one
[QUOTE=”baylrballa, post: 11145989, member: 52381″]
3w
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He actually hit his 3w decent though. Me on the other hand dropped it right after the MC. I’m rolling with two drivers now. But his bag would look pretty cool with two good locking Cobra putters in it so maybe he should try it.
[QUOTE=”GoDawgs#LRB, post: 11146340, member: 55623″]
He actually hit his 3w decent though. Me on the other hand dropped it right after the MC. I’m rolling with two drivers now. But his bag would look pretty cool with two good locking Cobra putters in it so maybe he should try it.
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what got the #2 slot?
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 11146362, member: 62865″]
what got the #2 slot?
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My old Cobra Speed LD that’s like 15 years old. I can hit the ball high with it and also can usually get a little draw. My LTDx is a much lower penetrating flight and is more of a fade. I have the old one for 3-4 holes at my course for when they have the tees in the left side of the box and trees take away the fade.
Anyone gaming the Stingray-20? I was rolling it a bit in the shop today while waiting for a club to be re-gripped and it felt and rolled things so well.
It feels like this line top to bottom is so good.
Maybe it’s just the winter doldrums so any club in hand feels good, but something about that Stingray-20 is still calling to me.
I have been rolling my Supernova lately indoors and I’m liking it alot. Hits very straight, and even when trying to mishit it still goes straight. I’m looking forward to getting back outside next spring and seeing how it does on the greens.
[QUOTE=”mainefootwedge, post: 11165738, member: 50255″]
I have been rolling my Supernova lately indoors and I’m liking it alot. Hits very straight, and even when trying to mishit it still goes straight. I’m looking forward to getting back outside next spring and seeing how it does on the greens.
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It’s so so good.
I don’t think Cobra gets enough credit for the depth of their lineup in terms of head shapes and toe hang.
Also, the Sport was on fire today. I was all over my lines. 28 putts on the round on shaggy winter greens.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 11192333, member: 62865″]
I don’t think Cobra gets enough credit for the depth of their lineup in terms of head shapes and toe hang.
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They have quite the assortment for only having a recent putter lineup for a couple years
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 11192333, member: 62865″]
I don’t think Cobra gets enough credit for the depth of their lineup in terms of head shapes and toe hang.
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Agree ?! I think they are the most underrated OEM out there
Okay I have just read through 75 pages of this thread and I have some questions and comments that I hope you guys can help me with.
To begin with last year was my best season of golf ever and thanks to my first round under par at the end of the year my handicap index dropped to 3.6. usually during the season I hover between a 5 and a 6.0.
Last year for the better part of the year I have been using the Mizuno mcraft for putter and have really liked it. Prior to that I have been through the gamut. The one putter that I was doing the best with besides the Mizuno blade was the TaylorMade Spider tour from a few years ago in all black with a single line on top. Both these models have the short slant neck.
When the Agera and the supernova both originally came out they were only in single band face balanced models and to be honest I was not the biggest fan of the aluminum silver color on top. It wasn’t bad on the supernova because there was still a lot of black showing but on the Agera I found it was a bit overwhelming and because the alignment strip in the middle was black and gray it did not really stand out very much. I was also concerned that there may be a lot of glare when using it out in the sun and so I never really considered it.
I recently went into my local golf town to find a replacement for the spider as I had lent it to a friend of mine for a couple of months who decided to completely wreck the paint job by not using the head cover and he ended up buying it from me. LOL.
With that in mind I discovered two things of interest to me: one was that they now offered these models in black and two that they now offer them in a short slant model.
Unfortunately I have only been able to see the supernova in person in black and I have not seen any shorts land models in person so I have no means of trying them out.
So my first question is for those who do own either model in short slant how did they find it performed relative to the face balanced model. My only concern is given the Moi is so high that maybe there would be some difficulty in squaring the face in a non-face balanced model.
Has anybody whose own one of the spider models and now one of these compare in terms of forgiveness and in terms of how it performs compared to a spider in slant neck?
Second question has to do with those of you who have the Agera in black how is it in the sun with glare. I did see one picture where it still look like that it was quite shiny in the Sun and might still produce glare. Is this an issue or was it maybe just the camera angle for the picture. Also how is it for alignment. While the spider I have also only has a single line the single line extends all the way from the face to the back whereas here it’s sort of hovers in the middle.
Lastly I am completely on the fence between the supernova and the agera. What I loved about the spider was that because of the two corner Wings in the back it felt like I was almost swinging a square block on rails and I have a feeling the Agera would be similar relative to the supernova. I know with the supernova I have the advantage of being able to pick up the ball with the putter but otherwise I am leaning Agera unless you supernova users out there can convince me otherwise.
I know this was a long-winded post and I hope I get some answers soon because I found an opportunity to buy these at about $80 off retail so would like to make that purchase before this option goes away.
[QUOTE=”Canabuc, post: 11209803, member: 19464″]
Okay I have just read through 75 pages of this thread and I have some questions and comments that I hope you guys can help me with.
To begin with last year was my best season of golf ever and thanks to my first round under par at the end of the year my handicap index dropped to 3.6. usually during the season I hover between a 5 and a 6.0.
Last year for the better part of the year I have been using the Mizuno mcraft for putter and have really liked it. Prior to that I have been through the gamut. The one putter that I was doing the best with besides the Mizuno blade was the TaylorMade Spider tour from a few years ago in all black with a single line on top. Both these models have the short slant neck.
When the Agera and the supernova both originally came out they were only in single band face balanced models and to be honest I was not the biggest fan of the aluminum silver color on top. It wasn’t bad on the supernova because there was still a lot of black showing but on the Agera I found it was a bit overwhelming and because the alignment strip in the middle was black and gray it did not really stand out very much. I was also concerned that there may be a lot of glare when using it out in the sun and so I never really considered it.
I recently went into my local golf town to find a replacement for the spider as I had lent it to a friend of mine for a couple of months who decided to completely wreck the paint job by not using the head cover and he ended up buying it from me. LOL.
With that in mind I discovered two things of interest to me: one was that they now offered these models in black and two that they now offer them in a short slant model.
Unfortunately I have only been able to see the supernova in person in black and I have not seen any shorts land models in person so I have no means of trying them out.
So my first question is for those who do own either model in short slant how did they find it performed relative to the face balanced model. My only concern is given the Moi is so high that maybe there would be some difficulty in squaring the face in a non-face balanced model.
Has anybody whose own one of the spider models and now one of these compare in terms of forgiveness and in terms of how it performs compared to a spider in slant neck?
Second question has to do with those of you who have the Agera in black how is it in the sun with glare. I did see one picture where it still look like that it was quite shiny in the Sun and might still produce glare. Is this an issue or was it maybe just the camera angle for the picture. Also how is it for alignment. While the spider I have also only has a single line the single line extends all the way from the face to the back whereas here it’s sort of hovers in the middle.
Lastly I am completely on the fence between the supernova and the agera. What I loved about the spider was that because of the two corner Wings in the back it felt like I was almost swinging a square block on rails and I have a feeling the Agera would be similar relative to the supernova. I know with the supernova I have the advantage of being able to pick up the ball with the putter but otherwise I am leaning Agera unless you supernova users out there can convince me otherwise.
I know this was a long-winded post and I hope I get some answers soon because I found an opportunity to buy these at about $80 off retail so would like to make that purchase before this option goes away.
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I have a black Agera. there is zero concern for me with it in the sun. I live in Phoenix, so our sun can be a bit bright.
I came from a EXO #7. the single line and the shape of the Agera are great for alignment. again your mileage may very, but for me no concern there at all.
I’m not a slant neck player so I can’t offer any advice there. [USER=3474]@MWard[/USER] did you get the slant neck?
[QUOTE=”mtbloco, post: 11209864, member: 53632″]
I have a black Agera. there is zero concern for me with it in the sun. I live in Phoenix, so our sun can be a bit bright.
I came from a EXO #7. the single line and the shape of the Agera are great for alignment. again your mileage may very, but for me no concern there at all.
I’m not a slant neck player so I can’t offer any advice there. [USER=3474]@MWard[/USER] did you get the slant neck?
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Plumbers neck with the Grandsport 35
[QUOTE=”MWard, post: 11209872, member: 3474″]
Plumbers neck with the Grandsport 35
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I thought you had a PTC Agera….briefly
[QUOTE=”Canabuc, post: 11209803, member: 19464″]
Okay I have just read through 75 pages of this thread and I have some questions and comments that I hope you guys can help me with.
To begin with last year was my best season of golf ever and thanks to my first round under par at the end of the year my handicap index dropped to 3.6. usually during the season I hover between a 5 and a 6.0.
Last year for the better part of the year I have been using the Mizuno mcraft for putter and have really liked it. Prior to that I have been through the gamut. The one putter that I was doing the best with besides the Mizuno blade was the TaylorMade Spider tour from a few years ago in all black with a single line on top. Both these models have the short slant neck.
When the Agera and the supernova both originally came out they were only in single band face balanced models and to be honest I was not the biggest fan of the aluminum silver color on top. It wasn’t bad on the supernova because there was still a lot of black showing but on the Agera I found it was a bit overwhelming and because the alignment strip in the middle was black and gray it did not really stand out very much. I was also concerned that there may be a lot of glare when using it out in the sun and so I never really considered it.
I recently went into my local golf town to find a replacement for the spider as I had lent it to a friend of mine for a couple of months who decided to completely wreck the paint job by not using the head cover and he ended up buying it from me. LOL.
With that in mind I discovered two things of interest to me: one was that they now offered these models in black and two that they now offer them in a short slant model.
Unfortunately I have only been able to see the supernova in person in black and I have not seen any shorts land models in person so I have no means of trying them out.
So my first question is for those who do own either model in short slant how did they find it performed relative to the face balanced model. My only concern is given the Moi is so high that maybe there would be some difficulty in squaring the face in a non-face balanced model.
Has anybody whose own one of the spider models and now one of these compare in terms of forgiveness and in terms of how it performs compared to a spider in slant neck?
Second question has to do with those of you who have the Agera in black how is it in the sun with glare. I did see one picture where it still look like that it was quite shiny in the Sun and might still produce glare. Is this an issue or was it maybe just the camera angle for the picture. Also how is it for alignment. While the spider I have also only has a single line the single line extends all the way from the face to the back whereas here it’s sort of hovers in the middle.
Lastly I am completely on the fence between the supernova and the agera. What I loved about the spider was that because of the two corner Wings in the back it felt like I was almost swinging a square block on rails and I have a feeling the Agera would be similar relative to the supernova. I know with the supernova I have the advantage of being able to pick up the ball with the putter but otherwise I am leaning Agera unless you supernova users out there can convince me otherwise.
I know this was a long-winded post and I hope I get some answers soon because I found an opportunity to buy these at about $80 off retail so would like to make that purchase before this option goes away.
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I have the Supernova-20 in black and have never noticed any glare with it. I can’t speak directly to the -30 but with the -20 I haven’t had any unexpected issues with face closure. If you’re used to the short slant is be surprised if you had issues with the shorter version. The Supernova will be about the same size as the Spider but the the Agera is significantly bigger than the Supernova. For decent putters I think there may be some diminishing returns in forgiveness going from Supernova to Agera, so unless you’re really wanting to go oversized Supernova might be a better choice.
[QUOTE=”Canabuc, post: 11209803, member: 19464″]
Okay I have just read through 75 pages of this thread and I have some questions and comments that I hope you guys can help me with.
To begin with last year was my best season of golf ever and thanks to my first round under par at the end of the year my handicap index dropped to 3.6. usually during the season I hover between a 5 and a 6.0.
Last year for the better part of the year I have been using the Mizuno mcraft for putter and have really liked it. Prior to that I have been through the gamut. The one putter that I was doing the best with besides the Mizuno blade was the TaylorMade Spider tour from a few years ago in all black with a single line on top. Both these models have the short slant neck.
When the Agera and the supernova both originally came out they were only in single band face balanced models and to be honest I was not the biggest fan of the aluminum silver color on top. It wasn’t bad on the supernova because there was still a lot of black showing but on the Agera I found it was a bit overwhelming and because the alignment strip in the middle was black and gray it did not really stand out very much. I was also concerned that there may be a lot of glare when using it out in the sun and so I never really considered it.
I recently went into my local golf town to find a replacement for the spider as I had lent it to a friend of mine for a couple of months who decided to completely wreck the paint job by not using the head cover and he ended up buying it from me. LOL.
With that in mind I discovered two things of interest to me: one was that they now offered these models in black and two that they now offer them in a short slant model.
Unfortunately I have only been able to see the supernova in person in black and I have not seen any shorts land models in person so I have no means of trying them out.
So my first question is for those who do own either model in short slant how did they find it performed relative to the face balanced model. My only concern is given the Moi is so high that maybe there would be some difficulty in squaring the face in a non-face balanced model.
Has anybody whose own one of the spider models and now one of these compare in terms of forgiveness and in terms of how it performs compared to a spider in slant neck?
Second question has to do with those of you who have the Agera in black how is it in the sun with glare. I did see one picture where it still look like that it was quite shiny in the Sun and might still produce glare. Is this an issue or was it maybe just the camera angle for the picture. Also how is it for alignment. While the spider I have also only has a single line the single line extends all the way from the face to the back whereas here it’s sort of hovers in the middle.
Lastly I am completely on the fence between the supernova and the agera. What I loved about the spider was that because of the two corner Wings in the back it felt like I was almost swinging a square block on rails and I have a feeling the Agera would be similar relative to the supernova. I know with the supernova I have the advantage of being able to pick up the ball with the putter but otherwise I am leaning Agera unless you supernova users out there can convince me otherwise.
I know this was a long-winded post and I hope I get some answers soon because I found an opportunity to buy these at about $80 off retail so would like to make that purchase before this option goes away.
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I have only rolled Spider’s in the store but a long time gamer of the supernova your description on swinging a square block fits well with I feel the putter performs.
I have face balance and have played with the short slant a lot in store and didn’t find any issue closing in down.
hearing some interesting things about Cobra putters coming up. None confirmed but interesting.
[QUOTE=”templeton80, post: 11209980, member: 53139″]hearing some interesting things about Cobra putters coming up. None confirmed but interesting.[/QUOTE]Can you fill us in on what you might have heard?
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Thanks everybody so far for your replies. Sounds like I am definitely going to get one. I am still debating between the Agera and the supernova. I have the original Spider which is a bit bigger than the x model so I think the Agera won’t be overly big by comparison. I think that may be the route I am going to go. Anybody who has rolled both supernova and Agera can you tell me the pros and cons of one over the other besides the obvious inability to scoop one up from the back of the Agera?
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Thanks everybody so far for your replies. Sounds like I am definitely going to get one. I am still debating between the Agera and the supernova. I have the original Spider which is a bit bigger than the x model so I think the Agera won’t be overly big by comparison. I think that may be the route I am going to go. Anybody who has rolled both supernova and Agera can you tell me the pros and cons of one over the other besides the obvious inability to scoop one up from the back of the Agera?
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For me it’s all about what you want to look down on, plus the aforementioned ball scoop. I do well with a top line and seeing the back of the blade with the fang of the Supernova. Others like the confidence of the Agera.
They seem to roll pretty similar from both when I dabbled with both side by side in my opinion
Looks like I am joining the club. I just ordered an all black Agera putter with the short slant neck. It is winter here in Canada so my only opportunity to use it will be on practice putting green in my basement but I think this is the model that especially in all black will most closely resemble the spider tour which I just loved how it performed and how it looked.
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Ok need help. Putter came today. Slant neck Agera.
Something seems wrong. At address sits about 30* open. If I sit it flat the shaft is leaning back away from the target such that my hands are almost even with my right thigh.
Feels as if the angle is backwards.
Going to contact store to see if they can send replacement.
Wondering what every ones looks like set with club head flat and online.
For me to get it that way and shaft leaning neutral I have to deloft it about nearly 10*.
Arggh and to think I was getting this to replace a spider that came defective with grip not on straight and a a warping of the body as a bad casting.
Sometimes we can’t have nice things ….
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