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I immediately put on a Golf Pride MicrosuedeI had to get mine regrippe. Not a fan of the Lamkin Cross Line, it tore my hands up.
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I immediately put on a Golf Pride MicrosuedeI had to get mine regrippe. Not a fan of the Lamkin Cross Line, it tore my hands up.
Figured it might be info someone could be curious about.I am using Arccos with the C721. What data are you interested in?
Not saying I won’t miss with it from time to time. Misses however are usually still playable. Makes the game really enjoyable when you expect ball to find the short grass
Ya just read this, great write up.Great write up @Jman . Really speaks to, then shows the data to back up the tech paked in this driver.
Truth. WAY lower spin, and suuuuuuch a better sound.
Plus, I’d argue it’s more forgiving.
I’m curious too. Tough to beat a ping in the forgiveness category.In what way?
Yeah. The 425 is about 500+ higher moi than anything else. But I think a lot of that is due to weighing about 12g heavier head. I would like to possibly pair up with an Autoflex shaft but the Pings extra weight makes that difficult as you would have to remove 12g just to start even with other heads.I’m curious too. Tough to beat a ping in the forgiveness category.
Couldn’t you just swap the stock weight with one 12g lighter ?Yeah. The 425 is about 500+ higher moi than anything else. But I think a lot of that is due to weighing about 12g heavier head. I would like to possibly pair up with an Autoflex shaft but the Pings extra weight makes that difficult as you would have to remove 12g just to start even with other heads.
In all ways, unless you’re one who needs more spin, then the 425 is a better option. 721 is a low spin high launch laterally and vertically forgiving animal.In what way?
I’d argue many are on par with them, regardless of what their stability (moi) is.I’m curious too. Tough to beat a ping in the forgiveness category.
I’d argue many are on par with them, regardless of what their stability (moi) is.
I’m curious too. Tough to beat a ping in the forgiveness category.
Yes. 12g is a lot and I think that extra weight is part of the extra forgiveness of the Ping. It probably would reduce the forgiveness to some degree.Couldn’t you just swap the stock weight with one 12g lighter ?
MOI has become a catch all for forgiveness and a near arms race for some of these companies. I can make the case that above a certain threshold that most of these drivers are at (minus maybe SIM2), its a meaningless number.I’d argue many are on par with them, regardless of what their stability (moi) is.
Why minus the SIM2?MOI has become a catch all for forgiveness and a near arms race for some of these companies. I can make the case that above a certain threshold that most of these drivers are at (minus maybe SIM2), its a meaningless number.
Just personal experience testing and seeing huge speed and spin jumps and drops when missingWhy minus the SIM2?
So less consistent across the face? What about the SIM2 Max?Just personal experience testing and seeing huge speed and spin jumps and drops when missing
I have not played Ping since the originalG Series and i liked it, but when i hit a toe shot with it, it was a nasty snapper the ran deep in the woods and did not answer when i called out to it....The toe shots i hit with the C721 are low and running up the right side. and long
I can speak to the shaft. I played a HZRDUS Smoke yellow 6.0 before moving to the RDX Blue 6.0 in the C721. RDX blue feels a lot less rigid than the Smoke yellow. It fits my smooth transition very well. I get more height,and more consistent results with the RDX Blue. I didnt get along with the yellow because u felt like I had to swing hard to get anything out of it, but the Blue has been great.Trading in a bunch of old clubs purchased over the last 8-10 years and will get several new Tour Edge C721 clubs instead. Likely a 25 degree hybrid, a fairway wood or two, and maybe the driver.
My preferred shot shape is a draw and my trajectory is on the low to mid side so I’m usually looking for loft as I tend to hit down with most of my clubs. 53 years old, current GHIN index is 4.5 and I’m fairly accurate with driver but could use a little more distance. Chipping and putting are my strongest skills. 185 yards - 225 yards is an area I’ve been working to improve and the current Tour Edge clubs I am gaming have helped me significantly in the past two years.
Currently have the EX 10 16.5 degree 4 wood in my bag and an XCG7 21 degree 7 wood and 28 degree hybrid. All three have the Fujikura Fuel Red 60 gram Stiff shafts in them. Was curious to hear from those of you that have had a chance to hit the Fujikura Ventus Red 50 R or 60 S shafts and get some feedback on whether they play true to flex, firm or soft? My driver swing speed is 95-100 MPH, so on the border between the Tour Edge recommended shaft selections. The other option is the Project X RDX Blue 5.5 or 6.0, but in the past I’ve hit other Project X shafts with a lower than desired trajectory and haven’t liked the feel.
The 28 degree hybrid is my 175 yard club and the 21 degree 7 wood is my 215 yard club. I love the 7 wood for off the fairway or tee. I’m better with the 4 wood off the tee than the fairway, but tend to draw it more than I’d like.
My current Driver is the Ping G410 LST 10.5 with the Alta CB Red 55 Stiff shaft, with shaft frequency of 246 CPM and it has been a good performer, bit thinking about the C721 driver as a replacement. Have any of you had a chance to compare the two?
Thanks for the great reviews and appreciate any insight you can provide on the shafts and a comparison to the Ping G410 LST.
Regards,
Browndog
as far as Ping, yes, that is all i have as far as Comparing it to, as i said. Although since the=n i have played a SLDR an M5 and SIM Max...It still out performs them all in my hands.To be fair to Ping, you’re talking 2016 tech vs 2021. The 425 could produce the same result, it’s hard to say or not, but that would be a better comparison than a 2016 model.
A fairer comparison for the G would be the Tour Edge Ex9 driver. In that battle I’m guessing the G wins pretty handedly.
I can see that. My EXS220 was better than those for me too.as far as Ping, yes, that is all i have as far as Comparing it to, as i said. Although since the=n i have played a SLDR an M5 and SIM Max...It still out performs them all in my hands.